At 1:22 PM -0600 11/17/99, Shannon Gadbois wrote:
>My vote is also for classical conditioning.  What if we think of this
>example considering the temporal element?  The whistle and bird seed are
>"presented" at the same time THEN the birds flock.  In operant conditioning
>the reinforcer (consequence) should follow the behaviour.  So, if this is
>an example of operant conditioning:  the whistle is the discriminative
>stimulus which "signals" that flocking (the behaviour) will be reinforced
>(with presentation of bird seed).  The problem is that the reinforcer (bird
>seed) precedes the behaviour of flocking to the field (as the example was
>initially presented).
>Any comments?

It's not when the reinforcer is presented, it's when the subject contacts
the contingency.
IFF the temporal sequence (from the pigeons' point of view) is:
        Whistle --> flocking -->  eating bird seed
then it would fit the operant conditioning paradigm.

The problem is that (from the apochryphal anecdote) we don't know exactly
what thoise flocking pigeons are actually doing!

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