Back in January, in the context of a thread on the John/Joan
case, Deb Briihl asked about a TV programme she recalled which
discussed a case of a boy born without a penis and raised as a
girl. I'm not sure if I posted to TIPS, but I told Deb the
condition is called penile agenesis (but cloacal exstrophy in the
item below), the researcher was probably William Reiner, and the
programme was probably a Prime Time Live segment on September
3/97. The information came from researchers on another list.

Reiner has now reported on his work with these cases at a
conference, although it's not yet in print. Here's the news
release (courtesy of Mark Breedlove's neuroscience list). I'm
pretty sure that the "Canadian case" referred to in the item is
_not_ the John/Joan case, but another, and the outcome there was
less clear than described in the news item (can check if anyone's
interested). Reiner's cases add strong support to the new view
which developed after the failure of reassignment for John/Joan
that sex re-assignment should not be attempted until the
individual is old enough to decide for him/herself whether it
should be done.

-Stephen

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Friday May 12 5:01 PM ET

Study: Gender Determined in Womb

By SETH HETTENA, Associated Press Writer
BALTIMORE (AP) - A study of male children who were born without penises and
raised as girls found that most of them considered themselves boys when
they got older - suggesting that gender identity is determined in the womb.

The results call into question the practice of surgically ``reassigning''
the sex of such infants, researchers at the Johns Hopkins Hospital said
Friday.

Researchers tracked the development of 27 children who had been born
without a penis, a rare defect known as a cloacal exstrophy. The infants
were otherwise male with normal testicles, male genes and hormones.

Twenty-five of the children were sex-reassigned - doctors castrated them at
birth and their parents raised them as girls.

But over the years, all of the children, now ages 5 to 16, exhibited the
rough-and-tumble play of boys. Fourteen declared themselves to
be boys, in
one case as early as age 5, said Dr. William G. Reiner, a child and
adolescent psychiatrist and urologist at the Hopkins Children's Center.

``These studies indicate that with time and age, children may well know
what their gender is, regardless of any and all information and
child-rearing to the contrary,'' he said. ``They seem to be quite capable
of telling us who they are.''

The two children who were not reassigned and were raised as boys fit in
well with their normal male peers and were better adjusted psychologically
than the reassigned children, Reiner said.

The findings were presented Friday at the Lawson Wilkins Pediatric
Endocrine Society Meeting in Boston.

``This has very profound implications for the development of gender
identity,'' said Michael Bailey, an associate professor of psychology at
Northwestern University, who studies gender identity and sexual
orientation. ``This suggests that hormones' effect on the brain has a major
impact on gender identity.''

Reiner also called for a thorough review of the practice of sex
reassignment of children.

Dr. Marianne J. Legato, a professor of clinical medicine who studies the
differences between men and women at Columbia University, said that sexual
differentiation occurs in the first trimester of pregnancy.

``When the brain has been masculinized by exposure to testosterone, it is
kind of useless to say to this individual, `You're a girl,''' she said.
``It is this impact of testosterone that gives males the feelings that they
are men.''

The results contradicted a Canadian study published in the journal
Pediatrics in 1998 that suggested gender identity develops after birth. In
that study, researchers found that a boy who was raised as a girl after his
penis was mutilated during circumcision continued to live as a woman.

Copyright � 2000 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information
contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten
or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20000512/hl/sex_assignment_1.html

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