Annette,

Well here is some positive feedback. I agree with you completely. Further I think
that keeping students in college when
they do not belong there (perhaps at that time) does them a terrible disservice. Of
course you get pounded on by
administrators and colleagues of you suggest that.

Mel

Annette Taylor wrote:

> Well, I am bound to get a bunch of negative feedback for my
> highly unpopular stance I am about to take--and have in the past.
>
> Maybe those who are trying really, really hard and just not getting
> it are among those maybe have selected the wrong path for them in
> life--i.e., perhaps they would be better off in a more technical
> program.
>
> This is not to be pejorative but college is not for everyone.
> There is a certain amount of ability to think in the abstract that
> is required and expected and assumed to be present in those who have
> completed college. That is what it is all about. most of my students
> who try and try and try and just can't do it are those who just can't
> do the abstract work.
>
> I would kindly suggest that perhaps they need to reassess their
> goals/plans and paths for achieving those.  Personally, I have two
> step-daughters, both of whom have AA level degrees in nursing (both
> with RNs) and both are VERY happy with what they are doing in life
> and both are make tons more money than I am.....so i want to emphasize
> that it is not a negative put down that someone is not 'college material'.
>
> for psych majors, who largely are drawn to the major because they like
> to "help" people there are a myriad of technical professions in the
> medical field that can provide an excellent outlet for such ambitions
> and goals, without the need for a 4-year degree.
>
> but honestly, if they are really trying and just can't do it, then
> I think the bottom line is they need to reassess all their options
> rather than think about extra credit, etc.
>
> annette
>
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Linda Walsh wrote:
>
> > Dear Tipsters,
> > I'm once again looking for something to help students who truly seem to be
> > trying but not succeeding in class. After Test 1 we spent a good deal of time
> > talking about study techniques and self-testing, but test 2 did not show much
> > improvement. I have a vague recollection of either a TOP article or TIPS entry
> > on someone's "extra credit" assignment which, as I recall, included turning in
> > detailed notes on lecture, book, and study questions etc. for the remainder of
> > the semester, never missing another class, and other "perfect" study skill
> > behavior. Does this sound familiar to any of you before I hit the databases?
> > Linda Walsh
> > University of Northern Iowa
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
> Department of Psychology                E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>                 "Education is one of the few things a person
>                  is willing to pay for and not get."
>                                                 -- W. L. Bryan

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Melvyn B. King
Associate Professor of Psychology
SUNY Cortland
Box 2000, Cortland, NY 13045
Phone: (607) 753-4215
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