On 9 Feb 2011 at 19:13, don allen wrote:

> Hi Joan-
> 
> You recently wrote in part, "Children learn language from their 
> parents--to imply otherwise is simply wrong. " If this is 
> universally the case then how do you explain Rich-Harris's example of
> deaf parents who have children who can hear?

There seems to be some confusion here. Harris'  discussion of 
language in _The Nurture Assumption_ concerns second-language 
learning.  While I don't think she would accept Joan's assertion that 
children explicitly learn language from their parents (i.e. are 
taught to speak a language by them), she does note that "children of 
immigrant parents...learn things at home--most conspicuously a 
language" (p. 64).

But then she points out what happens when that immigrant child steps 
outside the home, and learns a new language, independent of his 
parents. Her famous example is the case of Joseph, who moved from 
Poland to Missouri at age seven, and learned within a few years to 
speak entirely unaccented English (Winitz et al, 1995). Meanwhile, 
there can be little doubt his parents, if they learned English at 
all, learned only to speak English with heavy accents and limited 
facility. Yet what Joseph learned was flawless American English, not 
the laboured version he heard from his parents. He could only have 
learned this from his peers, school, and perhaps television. 

Harris discusses various lines of evidence relating to the apparently 
effortless acquisition of a language by children without the need for 
parental instruction, and the case of hearing children of deaf 
parents is an important one. If you are brought up by deaf parents, 
the language input you receive is highly limited both in quantity and 
quality, yet many of these children nevertheless acquire normal 
language. It seems that exposure to either no language or abnormal 
language in the home plus a small amount of correct language outside 
it, and some passive exposure to television, is sufficient. That's 
pretty amazing considering how complex a behaviour language is.  No 
wonder Steven Pinker calls it a "language instinct".

BTW, a primary source of evidence relating to hearing children of 
deaf parents is Schiff (1976). The title and abstract of this paper 
place emphasis on the communication problems observed among some of 
these children, and is consequently misleading. When I crunched the 
numbers she provides, I came up with a figure that 70% of the hearing 
children for whom she had good data and who did not have physical 
reasons for language delay had no language problems, despite rearing 
in a severely language-impoverished environment. She also found that 
"the amount of time spent with hearing adults or children did not 
seem to be related to speech and language difficulty". It seems that 
only some minimum level of exposure to language is required. 

She is more explicit about this in a later review (Schiff-Myers, 
(1988), where she concludes "Many hearing children of deaf parents do 
develop speech and language normally if their family life is 
otherwise normal and they have some exposure to normal hearing 
speakers (approximately 5-10 hours per week seems to be sufficient)." 
(p. 61).  


Schiff, N., and Ventry, I.  (1976). Communication problems in hearing 
children of deaf parents. Journal of Speech and Hearing Disorders, 
Vol.41, 348-358.

Schiff-Myers, N. (1988). Hearing children of deaf parents. In: 
Bishop, D. Language Development in Exceptional Circumstances. 

Winitz, H. et al (1995). The development of English speech patterns 
of a 7-year-old Polish-speaking child. Journal of Psycholinguistic 
Research, 24, 117-143.

Stephen

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Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.          
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada               
e-mail:  
sblack at ubishops.ca
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