An offshoot from Erhard/est is the company Landmark Education
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmark_Education). A friend of mine attended
a "free" introduction to their training about a month ago. His impression
was that the presenter was good but tried to pressure him into buying their
program. When he said "no thanks" they ratcheted up the pressure to buy. It
left a stale taste in his mouth.

Edgar Johns
---------
International Consultants for Educational Excellence
(734) 564-4964
www.intl-education.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Palij [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:05 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Mike Palij
Subject: re: [tips] Help in clarifying the past

On Tue, 03 May 2011 07:53:08 -0700, Michael Sylvester wrote:
>Back in the sixties there was a movement called EST.

Technically, "Erhard Seminars Training" first began in October 1971 in the
Jack Tar Hotel in San Francisco.  Training seminars apparently stopped being
held in 1984.  A little more history as well as some "famous" graduates of
EST are available on the EST website:
http://www.erhardseminarstraining.com/?page_id=671

There's a Wikipedia entry (yadda-yadda) but it contains limited information;
see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training

>I think it was an offshoot of Ellis' Rational Emotive Therapy.

Almost everything but RET.  However, it appears one might be able to trace
EST's background to Korzybski's General Semantics and you can get to Ellis
from there. For background on Korzybski, see his Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Korzybski

>Anyway,it was said that people would pay a large sum of money to attend 
>one session of est somewhere in California.

EST seminars would be held in different part of the US and eventually in
other countries.  There was even a prison program based on EST that is
referenced in the Wikipedia entry on Erhard Seminars Training.

>Then after  they were seated at the lecture hall,someone from the 
>movement would get on stage and say something like this " How stupid 
>you are to pay all that money.Now go home.That's it!"
>Was that true of some aspect of the est approach?

Given that the seminars took a long time (60 hours over two weekends
according to Wikipedia) and bathroom breaks were banned (a controversial
practice which got media play), it's unlikely that that the "Now go home"
comment you provide would be made, unless it was made at the very end of the
seminar.  But there is a literature about EST and you'd be better off
reading the articles and books about EST -- Wikipedia provides some
references as well as looking at what is provided on the Skeptic's
Dictionary website:
http://www.skepdic.com/est.html

-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]


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