Something about paradigm shifts requiring people to die. It may take a while for the 'old regime' to be replaced.
On Aug 11, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Lilienfeld, Scott O wrote: > Annette et al.: > > From what I know of its history, the Columbia clinical psychology program has > always been something of an anomaly. It's not in the psychology department > (a rarity for clinical psychology programs, although not for counseling > psychology programs), and has little or no formal affiliation with it > (although there is certainly some collaboration here and there). > Traditionally, the program has been very psychodynamic and not especially > research-oriented. The contrast with the Columbia psychology department has > been strark. > > In relatively recent years, however, the Columbia clinical program has > racheted up its standards considerably and made some excellent hires, > including my friend George Bonanno, and several other outstanding clinical > scientists who value evidence-based practice and research. I gave a talk > there several years ago, and was under the impression that the program was > still struggling a bit with its identity, but that it was gradually moving > more to a clinical scientist or at least a scientist-practitioner model of > training. > > So I was surprised and disheartened by this news story, which seems to imply > a major step backwards. I'm certainly not opposed to rigorous research on > the efficacy of meditation or mindfulness in psychotherapy. But the comments > of several of the participants imply a disconcerting elevation of clinical > intuition as equal to controlled research as a source of evidence. Very > troubling. I don't know more about this new emphasis within the clinical > program, but it does make me wonder just how committed the program is to a > scientific approach to clinical practice. > > ...Scott > > > ________________________________________ > From: Annette Taylor [[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:38 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: Re:[tips] Another step forward / backward for Clinical Psychology > Training? > > This quote makes it one step backwards: > “If you tell me you know something in your gut, I say that’s hard data,” said > Dr. Miller, > > I call on clinical folks to inform me whether the Columbia program is > generally well-respected. > > What I wonder is this, if it is well-respected then what does this say about > the state of clinical training? > > Sigh. > > Annette > > Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. > Professor, Psychological Sciences > University of San Diego > 5998 Alcala Park > San Diego, CA 92110 > [email protected] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: Another step forward / backward for Clinical Psychology Training? > From: "Jim Clark" <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:06:45 -0500 > X-Message-Number: 1 > Hi > A NY Times article on Columbia's clinical psychology program and its > addition of spirituality (mysticism?) to training. > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/10/education/columbia-program-merges-therapy-and-spirituality.html?pagewanted=1&src=recg > I especially noted the following for several points: > --------------------------------------------- > Lisa J. Miller, the professor who leads the concentration, said she was > training *spiritual psychologists,* who put nonmaterial concepts > like love and connection at the core of their efforts to heal. > *If you tell me you know something in your gut, I say that*s hard > data,* said Dr. Miller, who co-hosted a cable television series on > psychic children in 2008. Science, like intuition, she said, is > *another arrow in our quiver.* > --------------------------------------------- > One is emphasis on intuition as "hard data" and the other is the link > in this person's background to "psychic children." And what sort of > psychologist thinks that "love and connection" are elements that have > been ignored by either academic or clinical psychologists, necessitating > the introduction of mysticism to take into account such "nonmaterial > concepts"? > Take care > Jim Paul Brandon Emeritus Professor of Psychology Minnesota State University, Mankato [email protected] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=19664 or send a blank email to leave-19664-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
