I would say that the federal IRB regs are not quite a moving target, but 
certainly their interpretation and implementation seem to be. For example, 
whether or not all students need training probably depends on the institution's 
individual policy. Thus, at many institutions all those involved in any aspect 
of human subjects research (principal investigators, co-investigators, research 
assistants, etc.) need to undergo IRB training. Because not all individuals 
(e.g., student research assistants) are specified at the time of submission of 
an IRB application, there should be an understanding on the part of the PI that 
anyone involved, even those who merely enter data, will undergo training. 


Anyway, at least that is my own 'moving target' interpretation. ;-) 


And, yes, NIH training is widely acceptable, but CITI's is probably more 
thorough. 



Miguel 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Wiliams" <[email protected]> 
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 1:17:27 AM 
Subject: Re:[tips] IRB Training 

You do not need to have all your students take the training, unless this is an 
educational exercise. The only people who need training are the PI and others 
on the IRB submission, especially those taking consents. The NIH and CITI 
training probably meet the requirements, but who knows? The IRB regs are a 
moving target. A great book on the subject is Ethical Imperialism, by Zachary 
Schrag. 

Mike Williams 



Subject: Re: IRB Training 
From: Paul C Bernhardt<[email protected]> 
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:27:53 +0000 
X-Message-Number: 3 

We go directly to NIH's website. I have no idea if it costs us anything, but 
I'm pretty confident it does not. I'm doing a study now that required about 10 
undergraduate research assistants and they are all just going to the site for 
training. 

http://phrp.nihtraining.com/users/login.php 

Paul 


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