Interesting discussion as we just had a departmental meeting yesterday. We used to give credit for a 3 or higher, but now only give credit for scoring a 5. There's a lot of sentiment among faculty, however, to revisit that decision and maybe not give any credit at all. We're seeing students scoring 5s having all kinds of trouble in our other courses.
******************* Mark A. Casteel, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Penn State York 1031 Edgecomb Avenue York, PA 17403 (717) 771-4028 ******************** From: Paul Brandon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:46 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] AP Classes are a Scam I suspect that there's a lot of variation. Thinking back to the distant past when my kids were in high school, some of the high school math teachers teaching AP math had barely as much math as they were teaching. Remember, a teaching degree in math education can require fewer actual math courses than an undergraduate math minor. On the other hand, one son went on to get a doctorate in math and now grades AP math! But he never took a high school math course (we made other arrangements). On Oct 19, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Rick Froman wrote: I'm not at AP-affiliated Tipster (but I have a colleague who is) and I don't see much problem with the AP system as far as giving credit for college classes for high scores. Most high school classes will meet five times a week for an academic hour as opposed to college classes that meet three times a week so there is a lot more time available to cover material and do various other activities (even with the usual HS time wasters). The only part of the program I see as a scam has to do with cases where very low percentages of students taking the AP classes at some schools do not pass the test. That pass rate should be publicized to potential students and their parents. We had a high school AP class in our town (not Psychology) where an extremely low percentage of students in the class passed the test and, as far as I know, the same teacher is still teaching it. That is troubling but it really has nothing to do with the college equivalence granted to students who pass the test at a high level. Rick Dr. Rick Froman, Chair Division of Humanities and Social Sciences Professor of Psychology Box 3519 John Brown University 2000 W. University Siloam Springs, AR 72761 [email protected] (479) 524-7295 http://bit.ly/DrFroman From: drnanjo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:01 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] AP Classes are a Scam http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/ap-classes-are-a-scam/26 3456/ Sharing this because a few of my fellow TIPsters are veteran readers. Wondering what they (and other not AP-affiliated Tipsters) think about this. Happy approximately mid-semester to you and yours... Paul Brandon Emeritus Professor of Psychology Minnesota State University, Mankato [email protected] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13372.4251c47fdf0b43ddd1e5bf28bc6f3dba <http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13372.4251c47fdf0b43ddd1e5bf28bc6f3dba&n= T&l=tips&o=21188> &n=T&l=tips&o=21188 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-21188-13372.4251c47fdf0b43ddd1e5bf28bc6f3...@fsulist.frostburg.edu _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=21189 or send a blank email to leave-21189-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
