Dear Tipsters,

Following up on Jim's comment below, I, for one, do have a fascination with 
verbal communication, and I plead guilty to having a bias towards existing 
words, terms, phrases if they convey meaning well.

Example:

I cringe at the ubiquitous "going forward" when it is either redundant or 
covered by "in the future".

I am not alone: http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/goingforward.html

Sincerely,

Stuart

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Clark [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 12:21 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Disseminating your published work?

Hi

First, heaven help us if the grammar police start to monitor e-mail 
discussions!  I'll be in lots of trouble.

Second, notwithstanding #1, interesting response and citations from Paul to 
Karl's observation about the use of "they" with singular referent "some one" 
(more on this referent later).  Perhaps it is the vestiges of a memorable (for 
all the wrong reasons) year of teaching high school English decades ago, but I 
would still suggest writers (in their formal writing ... not e-mails) try to 
avoid the singular "they"
by pluralizing or otherwise re-wording sentences.  In the case of Deb's "if 
some one feels they are ...", something like "if people feel that they are ..." 
would appear to work.

On the "some one," I would have written "someone," which led me to google the 
difference.  See:

http://www.vappingo.com/word-blog/someone-or-some-one-what%E2%80%99s-the-difference/

The subtleties of English.  I wonder if academics in general, irrespective of 
their discipline, have a fascination with verbal communication given the nature 
of our work (writing and speaking clearly)?  Excluding postmodernists and the 
like, of course.

Take care
Jim


James M. Clark
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>>> Paul C Bernhardt <[email protected]> 07-Feb-13 10:29 PM
>>>
The use of 'they' as singular is common and acceptable and has a long history 
(16th century).

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/they.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100184652/if-someone-tells-you-singular-they-is-wrong-please-do-tell-them-to-get-stuffed/


It is also cognitively efficient. (I used the singular they once in a
paper for a class in graduate school and footnoted the usage with this
citation to avoid grammar penalties.)

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/8/2/106.abstract 
In Search of Gender Neutrality: Is Singular They a Cognitively
Efficient Substitute for Generic He?

  1.  Julie
Foertsch<http://pss.sagepub.com/search?author1=Julie+Foertsch&sortspec=date&submit=Submit>1<http://pss.sagepub.com/content/8/2/106.abstract#aff-1>
and
  2.  Morton Ann
Gernsbacher<http://pss.sagepub.com/search?author1=Morton+Ann+Gernsbacher&sortspec=date&submit=Submit>1<http://pss.sagepub.com/content/8/2/106.abstract#aff-1>

+<http://pss.sagepub.com/content/8/2/106.abstract#> Author
Affiliations

  1.
1University of Wisconsin-Madison

  1.  Julie Foertsch, LEAD Center, 1402 University Ave, or Morton Ann
Gernsbacher, Department of Psychology, both at University of
Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, WI 53706

Abstract

With increasing frequency, writers and speakers are ignoring
grammatical proscription and using the plural pronoun they to refer to
singular antecedents. This change may, in part, be motivated by efforts
to make language more gender inclusive. In the current study, two
reading-time experiments demonstrated that singular they is a
cognitively efficient substitute for generic he or she, particularly
when the antecedent is nonreferential. In such instances, clauses
containing they were read (a) much more quickly than clauses containing
a gendered pronoun that went against the gender stereotype of the
antecedent, and (b) just as quickly as clauses containing a gendered
pronoun that matched the stereotype of the antecedent. However, with
referential antecedents, for which the gender was presumably known,
clauses containing singular they were not read as quickly as clauses
containing a gendered pronoun that matched the antecedent's stereotypic
gender.


On Feb 7, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Wuensch, Karl L wrote:







          This old fart has never seen from a publisher a restriction
that would prohibit providing a reprint to an individual.  If a
publisher were to have such a restriction, I would avoid that publisher
like the Medieval plague.

PS * *some one* is singular, but *they* is plural.  The
number of a pronoun should agree with its antecedent.

Cheers,
<image001.jpg><http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/klw.htm>
From: Deborah S. Briihl [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:29 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Disseminating your published work?

The point was that it was a request. A request is a request, not an
order. In this case, if some one feels they are breaking copyright
rules, then I can see why the request would be refused.

And medieval? Well, now that would require a quill, ink, small knife,
parchment and a scribe. Maybe an illuminator? :)
Deb
Deborah Briihl
Dept of psych and counseling
Valdosta state university
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 ,Sent from my iPad

On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:11 PM, "Christopher Green"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hmm. What sounded rude (or at least unconscionably snobby) to me, Deb,
was refusing to pass along an article simply because the requester is
not "of the guild." How positively Medieval.

Chris
-----
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4
Canada

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:32 PM, "Deborah S. Briihl"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:












I know what others have stated, but at this point I would wonder about
this given the second email, which sounds incredibly rude. If you make a
request, then the other person can refuse your request. To then accuse
you of being unprofessional and you should because taxpayers pay our
salary blah, blah, blah would cause some kind of warning bells in me
(and would tick me off).
Deb
Deborah Briihl
Dept of psych and counseling
Valdosta state university
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 ,Sent from my iPad

On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:41 PM, "Rob Weisskirch"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:







TIPSfolk,

Recently, I got a request for pdfs of two articles I had published. 
The request came from someone who identified himself as an "independent
researcher" who claimed not to have access to the two journals
(mainstream ones--none that were esoteric).  His email did not include
his last name nor any affiliation.  But, it clearly was not spam.

I wrote back and declined to send them because there was not a clear
affiliation with an university, press, or other organization. He wrote
back and said that he was shocked, my work is not secret, that it is
supported by taxpayers, that I'm unprofessional, etc.

I replied again that I did not think that his unaffiliated identity met
the requirements under the copyright transfer.  I also informed him that
I respected the journals and if he would provide an affiliation, I'd be
happy to send the work.

Am I being too picky?

Rob
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Professor of Human Development
Certified Family Life Educator
Liberal Studies Department
California State University, Monterey Bay
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Seaside, CA 93955
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