John and others- "On the other hand, I didn't really need the cool French 10 speed nor the Italian hiking boots etc etc. " Sounds very familiar! Or add to that the North Face tent (when they were a small hand constructing company no one had heard of the) or the MSR stove . . . A very few splurges, yes.
My own experience has been that students who take loans at our school are similar to the way John and I were as undergrads. I also lived in an apartment carved out of an older house near campus during two years when I had loans (it was cheaper than the dorms, not more expensive). There was no pool, I rode the bicycle or walked most places (mine was British) because I couldn't afford the 75-cent/gallon gas prices. I ate at home most of the time (cheaper) and dined out once a week on "all you can eat night" at a local pasta place (because I was running 40 miles a week). My fabulous wardrobe consisted of jeans and t-shirts mostly. I also worked two part time jobs much of the time and paid most of my own way the last two years at a private liberal arts college because both my parents had forced medical retirement. The parents helped all they could afford. Yes, today's students do need a cell phone- but they don't pay for internet and many work part time to pay for a few extras. (I have very few students who drive a new car or who don't live a rather Spartan lifestyle). I will admit that I'm somewhat nonplussed by some of their attitudes toward buying their textbooks. :) Tim _______________________________ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD Professor, Department of Psychology The College of Idaho Caldwell, ID 83605 email: [email protected] teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and systems "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker In some cases, because they need to pay for a fancy apartment with swimming pool etc,, a smart phone with unlimited service, a new car, meals off campus, and all those essentials that I never had when a student. Cheers, [Karl L. Wuensch]<http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/klw.htm> From: Paul C Bernhardt [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 8:41 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Obama on Federal Support of Education Why do they have to get a loan to get an education? To me, that seems to be the more important question. Paul On Aug 22, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Wuensch, Karl L wrote: “It is time to stop subsidizing schools that are not producing good results.” ☺ “Good results” means graduation, employment, and pay-back of loans. I expect universities will be evaluating departments in the same way. Who pays her loans back more reliably – the graduate with a degree in management information systems or the one with a degree in psychology? Cheers, ________________________________ <image001.jpg><http://www.ecu.edu/> Karl L. Wuensch, Professor and ECU Scholar/Teacher, Dept. of Psychology East Carolina University, Greenville NC 27858-4353, USA, Earth<http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/Earth.htm> Voice: 252-328-9420 Fax: 252-328-6283 http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/klw.htm --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13441.4e79e96ebb5671bdb50111f18f263003&n=T&l=tips&o=27245 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-27245-13441.4e79e96ebb5671bdb50111f18f263...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-27245-13441.4e79e96ebb5671bdb50111f18f263...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b3534420e&n=T&l=tips&o=27267 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-27267-13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b35344...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-27267-13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b35344...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454&n=T&l=tips&o=27279 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-27279-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-27279-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13545.bae00fb8b4115786ba5dbbb67b9b177a&n=T&l=tips&o=27282 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-27282-13545.bae00fb8b4115786ba5dbbb67b9b1...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-27282-13545.bae00fb8b4115786ba5dbbb67b9b1...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=27286 or send a blank email to leave-27286-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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