On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 06:03:20 -0700, Louis Eugene Schmier wrote:
How could I have not known what was coming response to my two words.
Ignoring Mike's cordial and collegial tone,
Ah, you do have the gift of sarcasm! ;-)
all I did was ask for extrapolation.
No, you didn't unless you expect us to be able to read your
mind. "Extrapolation" of what point? What exactly were you
referring to and which paper were you referring to? The article
in the Chronicle or the one by Brown, Sokal, and Friedman?
What exactly needed extrapolating?
Personally, I don't argue in favor of the positive ratio. I had my
own doubts about such a sure fire equation as I read Fredrickson's
stuff. I'm always suspicious about anything that is magically
sure-fire,
even numbers. But, Anton only put up a citation.
A couple of questions:
(1) Who is this Anton that you speak of?
(2) Allen provided a link to the Brown, Sokal, & Friedman
paper on Arxiv website right under the link to the library
record for it.
So, I asked for a more fleshed out meaning,
inference, interpretation, reflection. If you put aside that 3-to-1
apparent
overreach aside, there is good stuff in "Positivity," and "Love," what
you call
the "squishy" and "soft" emotional concepts, which he is presently
manifesting
in his message, with which I've experimented with and applied in class.
Are you saying that you because you couldn't find the right link in the
post to Brown, Sokal, & Friedman paper and you wanted someone
to explain the paper to you instead of finding the paper yourself?
If you've read her stuff, as well as that of Seligman, Lyubomirsky,
Dweck,
Deci, Amabile, you'd be hesitant to throw the proverbial baby out with
the
bath water.
I hope that you seated Louis because I don't know if you can handle the
shock but I've actually taught a college course on "Positive Psychology"
at
NYU back in 2007 and I used the textbook by Snyder & Lopez, so I
have some idea of what I am talking about. I do try to read some of the
recent research but do not find it very interesting. However, in the
class,
I did try to provide a more expansive view than that provide by most in
the positive psychology "movement". Consider:
(1) Spent time going over the Japanese concept of "Mono No Aware"
and used Donald Richie's article describing it (especially in the role
it
plays in certain areas of Japanese film such as Yasujiro Ozu's films
(e.g.,
"Tokyo Story") and the Hibakusha Cinema genre which focuses on the
survivors of the atomic bomb blasts in Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
If you are unfamiliar with the concept, I suggest you look it up. Try:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-aesthetics/
There is a book on Hibakusha cinema by Mick Broderick that
contains the Richie article which you might want to find.
(2) The term paper for the course was to take the article by
Baumeister, Bratskavsky, Finkenauer, & Vohs (2001) titled
"Bad Is Stronger Than Good" in the journal "Review of General
Psychology" and to evaluate the arguments presented in the
article and has there been research since 2001 that effectively
counter Baumeister et al's position. Louis, you might benefit
from looking at the article.
Happy Halloween.
Have an "A-1 Day!".
-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]
P.S. Just in case people did not read the Chronicle article, here
is a critical paragraph:
|Papers turn out to be flawed all the time. But this was a widely
|cited paper that has remained a powerful talking point in the
|how-humans-flourish literature for years. And the timing of the
|Brown paper is not good for social psychology, which is
|struggling with the problem of results that can't be replicated,
|with high-profile researchers-like Diederik Stapel-who
|turn out to be con artists. Having two big names in the field,
|Fredrickson and Seligman, admit that they didn't even understand
|the ratio they featured in presentations and popular books
|doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
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