Sorry to be so late to respond to this thread but I just returned from a
long weekend (and a drive through horrible weather) but returned safely to
New Hampshire.  (Phew!)

I have taught a course in Human Sexuality for a while, and offer this
research...

First, from the text I use (by Simon LeVay and Janice Baldwin, 2012):

"During the 20th century, the diversity of gay people became much more
apparent (Faderman, 1991; Chauncey, 1994).  To accommodate this
recognition, a new idea took hold - that there are two kinds of lesbians
and two kinds of gay men.  The two kinds of lesbians were called *butch *and
*femme*:  The butch lesbians looked, dressed, and acted like men and took a
dominant role in sex, while the femme lesbians were like heterosexual women
and took a submissive role in sex.  A lesbian couple would consist of a
butch-femme pair.  Similarly, gay men were thought to be of two kinds,
sometimes referred to as tops and bottoms:  Tops were defined by a
preference for the insertive role in anal intercourse and were relatively
masculine and dominant generally, while bottoms preferred the receptive
role and were more feminine.  With this thinking, lesbian and gay male
relationships were "regularized."  Although they were same​-sex
relationships, they mimicked heterosexual relationships in the sense that
they were formed by the union of a more masculine-gendered and a more
feminine-gendered partner.

This general conception of gay sexuality persisted through the 1950s and
was very much part of gay and lesbian culture.  According to an oral
history of mid-2oth century lesbian life in Buffalo, New York, young,
working-class women who entered the lesbian culture had to first figure out
whether they were butch or femme.  After this fateful decision was made,
all their relationships, social roles, and sexual behaviors were governed
by their identity as one or the other (Kennedy & Davis, 1983).

​To some degree, this culture of complementary gender types still exists
today.  The 10-year-old son of a lesbian couple living in Decatur, Georgia,
put it this way:  "One of my moms id kind of like my dad, and my other mom
is the girly mom" (Bagby, 2008).  But in general, today's gay and lesbian
communities are characterized by a kaleidoscopic variety of "types" and a
generally more playful attitude toward gender.  Self-identified butch and
femme lesbians still exist, but the rules have loosened.  No one would be
surprised to see two butch or two femme lesbians forming a couple, for
example.

In addition, the lesbian/straight and gay/straight dichotomies are
themselves under siege, especially among women.  While some women remain
out-and-out lesbians, others move fluidly between relationships with both
men and women (Diamond, 2008).  Of course, one might call these women
bisexuals...rather than lesbians.  However, they may reject any such labels
themselves, preferring to define their sexual desires in terms of the
specific people they are attracted to, rather than by overall classes of
partners.​
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​  This may help explain why over 2% of the women in the National Survey of
Sexual Health and Behavior (NSSHB) survey...described themselves as
"something else" rather than gay, bisexual, or straight.  Thus, they
challenge the centrality of sexual orientation as we currently define it."​

Some other thoughts on the subject were first offered by Donald McCreary in
1994.  (Rhoda Unger discusses his work in another text I've used when
teaching Psychology of Women (the text is called *The Psychology of Women
and Gender)*.  McCreary pointed out how men who appear "effeminate" are
more likely to be perceived as gay, while women who have masculine traits
may be less likely to be seen as gay.  I know this isn't exactly the point
Michael was considering, but I always thought it was interesting,
nonetheless.

As you may have concluded from LeVay and Baldwin's description, the whole
concept of butch and femme is controversial, but still evolving.  There are
still strong butch movements (here's a newsletter that has much of
interest
 http://www.butchvoices.com/category/announcements/page/2/  ) and the idea
that using/thinking of gays as butch and/or femme is not totally
unacceptable to the gay community, nor is it necessarily outdated.

That said, I also want to stress that, as with any other person or group,
many understandably rebel against the idea that they be defined or labeled.

After pondering all of this, I wonder if another concept you might want to
consider, Michael, is why humans feel the need to categorize and break
groups down into subcategories.

Ah, I think I see another thread forming.  At least, in the old days, that
would have happened on TIPS.

Beth Benoit
Plymouth State University
Plymouth NH

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Michael Britt <mich...@thepsychfiles.com>
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