Right!
>From the functional analytic viewpoint they are two different behaviors, even 
>if they have structural similarities.
Both the stimulus situations that occasion them and the consequences that 
maintain them are different.
And of course the same act can have more than one function; these are not 
labels for entities.

On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Claudia Stanny <[email protected]> wrote:

> Aren't posting things and checking for messages two different behaviors? Yes, 
> they have the common element of logging in, but the contingencies operating 
> on each might be different. Once we move behaviors(s) and reinforcement 
> schedule(s) into the real world, the situation gets much more complex. 
> 
> Claudia
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Michael Britt <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Good explanation Ken.  So checking email (or Instagram, etc.) appears to be a 
> VI kind of thing - an uncertain amount of time passes and new email (a 
> reinforcer) arrives.  But, just for the fun of it, let me add in a wrinkle: 
> take Instagram: I don’t necessarily have to do anything - except for 
> initially following people when I sign up - but if I post a picture on 
> Instagram (or write a post on TIPS I suppose) then the chances of me getting 
> a response are increased. So that involves a behavior (posting a text or an 
> image).  Still VI?
> 
> Michael
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> 
>> On Jul 7, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Kenneth Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  
>> There is an easy trick to distinguish between VI and VR schedules.  First, 
>> imagine a FR 25 schedule.  If you double your response rate then you will 
>> double your reinforcement rate.  The same rule applies to a VR 25 schedule.  
>> On the other hand, imagine a FI 60 sec schedule.  What happens if you double 
>> your response rate?  The reinforcement rate will remain about constant 
>> because the 60-sec rule must be satisfied for either case.
>> 
>> The easy way to distinguish between a VI and a VR reinforcement schedule is 
>> to imagine the effect of doubling your response rate.  If the reinforcement 
>> rate doubles then you are dealing with a VR schedule.  If the reinforcement 
>> rate remains about constant then you are dealing with a VI schedule.
>> 
>> Applying that rule to slot machines and email gives you the following.  
>> Doubling the rate at which you enter coins into a slot machine will double 
>> the rate at which you receive the consequence, hence a VR schedule.  
>> Doubling the rate at which you check your email will not double the number 
>> of emails that you receive, hence a VI schedule.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Beth Benoit <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have a video of an interview of Skinner talking about variable ratio 
>> schedules as being well exemplified by slot machines.  Wouldn't checking for 
>> messages be the same thing?  Sometimes you get one, sometimes you don't.  
>> But not getting one doesn't make you less likely to check.  And sometimes 
>> getting one makes you more likely to check.
>> 
>> Beth Benoit
>> Plymouth State University
>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Michael Britt <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Parents know how hard it can be for kids to stay away from their social 
>> media connections - be it facebook, instagram or Snapchat.  As soon as my 
>> 15-year old gets out of swim practice it’s the first thing he does.  After 
>> all, there might be a message for him.  This would be variable interval 
>> reinforcement if I’m correct - he doesn’t have to actually do anything but a 
>> new message (reinforcer) might have arrived.
>> 
>> It seems pretty darn powerful, which seems weird because I’ve always thought 
>> of variable interval reinforcers as weak.  Thoughts?
>>    
>> Michael
>> 
>> Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.

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Minnesota State University, Mankato
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