Paul, if you don't know of or haven't read Burns, why do you feel qualified to speak about the effectiveness of his strategies? In no way does he encourage people in a state of depression "to buck up." The strategies he does use, based on extensive empirical research, is to help people understand how they have developed patterns of thinking--e.g., negative explanatory style or a sense of helplessness and hopelessness--that are not only inaccurate but counterproductive as they create depressive moods and inactive lifestyles. So our negatively distorted thinking patterns are creating our depressive realities. And yes, we can make a choice to learn more positive and productive ways of thinking and behaving but it takes work and practice, as Burns makes perfectly clear from the get-go.
For those who are interested, his books are fantastic and certainly wonderful examples of the superb application of cognitive-behavioral therapy. Joan [email protected] > âWe have a choice whether to opt for depression or notâ sounds > precisely like positivity pablum, blaming the victim of disease, that all > the person needs to do is âbuck upâ. > > I donât know Burns, but I do know that acting like depression is an > attitude problem is BS. > > I am going to assume that her words were typed in haste and > unintentionally conveyed the meaning Iâm ascribing. > > Paul > > >> On Jul 20, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Carol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Though I'm not speaking for Joan, I believe she was referring to >> cognitive techniques such as reframing. David Burns has been around a >> long time and has written some very good books. I wouldn't consider his >> work "positivity movement pablum." >> Carol >> >> >> >>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Paul C Bernhardt >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I surely hope you are joking about something as serious as depression. >>> Sounds like a bunch of positivity movement pablum to me. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>>>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Joan Warmbold <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> as we age we do have >>>> control over, whether we are depressed or not. In fact, if one reads >>>> Burns terrific book, "Feeling Good," we even have the choice whether >>>> to >>>> opt for depression or not. >>>> >>>> Joan >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>>> Don't take my word for it, see this news article on the >>>>> presentations >>>>> at the Alzheimer's Association International Conference: >>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11751788/School-grades-aged-10-predict-risk-of-dementia.html >>>>> >>>>> The Telegraph's (UK) science editor writes: >>>>> >>>>> |Children with low school grades at the age of 10 are >>>>> |more likely to develop dementia later in life, scientists >>>>> have found for the first time. >>>>> | >>>>> |Youngsters who struggled in school were far more likely >>>>> |to suffer dementia as pensioners than average children, >>>>> |while high achievers were much less likely to develop the >>>>> |condition. >>>>> >>>>> Boy, if I could only remember how I did in school at age 10, >>>>> I'd be a lot less concerned -- or more concerned depending >>>>> upon how I did. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, the are summaries of other research such as: >>>>> >>>>> |In a separate study, experts at the University of California >>>>> |found that watching too much television and taking too little >>>>> |exercise in early adulthood more than doubles their risk of >>>>> |dementia. >>>>> >>>>> I am shocked --SHOCKED you hear! -- to find out that being >>>>> a couch potato might cause Alzheimer's disease. And all this >>>>> time I thought that it only caused heart disease, diabetes, >>>>> and other minor health problems. But that's not all. >>>>> Consider: >>>>> >>>>> |Likewise at [sic!] study of 8,300 over 65s by Harvard University >>>>> |found that the loneliest people suffered much faster cognitive >>>>> |decline than those with the most friends, a 20 per cent >>>>> acceleration >>>>> |over 12 years. >>>>> >>>>> One wonders whether those lonely people spent a lot time at home >>>>> watching TV. >>>>> >>>>> Boy, this kind of research makes real confident that we'll find a >>>>> cure of Alzheimer's disease some time in the next 100 years. >>>>> Or perhaps the next millennia. 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