> On 2019-11-13, at 10:16, Mike Barnett <mike_barn...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Ohhhh….. on a Mac… yea, not a good combination with tkinter from my > experience.
It works great if you compile your own Python and link to an included standard Tcl/Tk. We've been doing that since we started using Macs. 12, 15 years? It looks and works just like the normal/standard Linux or Windows installations. But "they" don't want to do that anymore. Someone may have figured out a workaround in Anaconda, but that's a whole other bag of worms. > > Most Mac users of PySimpleGUI are using PySimpleGUIQt because of this. > > PySimpleGUI may very well not have the “Depth” you need. Because the APIs > are meant to be portable across multiple GUI frameworks, things like Toolbars > are something users need to create on their own, at least for now. Yeah, we'll see. I don't even use things as "fancy" as Toolbars, but I may change the look of things a bit too much, or maybe not. > > Simple… that’s the main focus of PySimpleGUI… to keep things simple, > especially for the developer. No need to write 40 lines of code when 4 will > work just as well. > > PySimpleGUI is extendable. There is a section in the documentation about > accessing the underlying “Widgets”. Each PySimpleGUI Element tends to map 1 > to 1 with a GUI Framework’s Widget. This gives advanced developers access to > changing more detailed settings for a Widget. It’s not, however, meant to > be how the normal programming of PySimpleGUI is done. Cool. Hope I can get to it today. Thanks! > > > > From: Robert Greschke <rob...@greschke.com <mailto:rob...@greschke.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:11 PM > To: Mike Barnett <mike_barn...@hotmail.com <mailto:mike_barn...@hotmail.com>> > Cc: Python-Tkinter <tkinter-discuss@python.org > <mailto:tkinter-discuss@python.org>> > Subject: Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Tkinter to Qt-whatever > > Hi! > > I saw that, but didn't take a look at it. Did I even get a choice? Hmm. I'll > look and see if it can handle me. The trigger for all of this was the way > things Tkinter look/feel in macOS. I guess I should give tix/ttk stuff a > look, again, too. Our stuff doesn't need to look native, but consistent > (Linux/Mac/Win) would be nice. The default Linux look is even the same as it > was when stuff was still running on SunOS. Everything is generally "big and > clunky" which is really nice for field work. No finesse required when the Sun > is in your eyes and the wind chill factor is 0F. > > I've looked at a bunch of documentation online for Qt stuff, got three books, > and all of it is just PyDoc quality and 'Hello World' stuff. > "...setIconSize(): This sets the icon size of the toolbar icons for this main > window." No!! Never would have guessed that. I sleep with Grayson's book to > keep anything from happening to it. :) > > Other than just the standard .config() things I haven't needed to really mess > with widgets. Color, padding, maybe the width of the scrollbars (they got > really narrow on some macOS versions), etc. A bit of Canvas drawing. > Rewriting would be OK if there is even less writing! > > These are things Tkinter has been fine for: > > www.passcal.nmt.edu/~bob/passcal/software/index.html > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.passcal.nmt.edu%2F~bob%2Fpasscal%2Fsoftware%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca66b07e713ef4b49242708d7685c8730%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637092618925801434&sdata=b23mXpx1u2EtZrW9CkNIWhvsk%2FexBUMpKbw2q%2BblNTE%3D&reserved=0> > > It would just be more of the same from here on. > > Thanks! > > Bob > > > On 2019-11-13, at 09:14, Mike Barnett <mike_barn...@hotmail.com > <mailto:mike_barn...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi there > > Take a look at PySimpleGUI (http://www.PySimpleGUI.org > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.PySimpleGUI.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca66b07e713ef4b49242708d7685c8730%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637092618925811445&sdata=ttjFUYP1QRZ3T7wQMEXmDu1OyPkmcNh7pOk2HryuxaA%3D&reserved=0>) > > With it you can write your code once and then easily move between tkinter, > Qt, WxPython and Remi (runs in browser). > > Sometimes the only change needed is to the import statement. Other times > only slight changes are needed. > > If you're using only the basic kinds of Widgets and aren't getting overly > fancy with styles (aren't changing things like scrollbars down deep inside > tkinter), then moving across the GUI frameworks is pretty easy. > > A number of the "Demo Programs" found on the GitHub run on multiple GUI > frameworks by only changing the import. The OpenCV ones are great examples > of this. > > But you will be required to "rewrite" your tkinter code. PySimpleGUI code is > up to 10x shorter than tkinter code so it could happen a lot quicker than you > think. > > TONS of documentation is available. The Cookbook is being updated daily at > the moment and you can run a bunch of sample code on Trinket > (https://pysimplegui.trinket.io/demo-programs > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpysimplegui.trinket.io%2Fdemo-programs&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca66b07e713ef4b49242708d7685c8730%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637092618925831461&sdata=tSd7QVvZURlPOYEdHVvYX5Q3abQRBdn6ownrQVfpqDg%3D&reserved=0>). > > It is certainly worth a look. > > -mike
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