Your tkdoc tutorial: Ohhhh! I've never seen things explained this way before. 
Somehow I thought you always had to go through the style-thing even if you 
didn't want to change anything. For background colors and stuff, fine, but most 
of the time you just need the default things. I wonder why things like "bg=" 
are not in there? I would think that would be easy. Just an addition to the 
class same as a "length=". I picked up two non-ttk things I didn't know just 
from the first 'calculate' example! I think I'll tell them they can do 
pressure-involved things with Qt or fire me. This makes way more sense.

I don't mind the classic look, in fact it's a little better for users -- the 
look and feel is the same everywhere -- but on macOS it all just falls apart. 
We've always had a self-compiled Python package with everything our programs 
needed, including decent classic Tkinter widgets on Macs, but management is 
getting lazy and they don't want to do that anymore. We're academia, so things 
don't have to make sense.

Ordered the book! I like books.

Thanks a bunch!

> On 2019-11-13, at 18:27, Mark Roseman <m...@markroseman.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> You really should look at the ttk stuff, it’s the easiest migration path to 
> quite decent looking GUI’s. As you note, the “classic” widgets haven’t 
> changed at all in decades. So without the (minimal) API changes to use the 
> ttk widgets, you’re stuck in the deep past. (Also, please ignore Tix if 
> you’re looking for improvements in UI)
> 
> Have a quick look at the tutorial on my site www.tkdocs.com 
> <http://www.tkdocs.com/> to get a sense of what’s involved. The last chapter 
> of the tutorial is a case study on modernizing Python’s IDLE, if you’re 
> looking for some before and after..
> 
> Mark

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