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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Hot Middlebox <hot.middle...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Four concerns (was Re: draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility at 
> IETF101)
> Date: March 14, 2018 at 22:08:44 GMT
> To: "Salz, Rich" <rs...@akamai.com>
> Cc: IETF TLS <tls@ietf.org>
> 
> The requirements for visibility exist in an array of regulated environments 
> worldwide.  It is one of the presentation areas in the Hot Middlebox 
> Workshop.  
> http://www.etsi.org/etsi-security-week-2018/middlebox-security?tab=1 
> <http://www.etsi.org/etsi-security-week-2018/middlebox-security?tab=1>
> 
> The Middlebox Hackathon site is also now public so everyone can experience 
> how a browser plug-in client (to be provided) can be used in conjunction with 
> a fine grained Middlebox Security Protocol for Middlebox discovery and 
> controlled visibility by an end-user in a way that meets both user and 
> regulatory interests.  The draft specification will be published in two weeks.
> 
> --the Hot Middlebox organizers
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Salz, Rich <rs...@akamai.com 
> <mailto:rs...@akamai.com>> wrote:
> 
> >    So aside from enabling MitM, this also enables session resumption by
>     the decryption service, something that the security considerations
>     neglects to include in its list.
> 
> So I think this is an important point.  I assume the authors did not realize 
> this. That shows how hard, and risky, it is to get this right.  In the US, we 
> have been having arguments where the national police force (FBI) is insisting 
> that tech companies can create a "golden key" that only they can use, and the 
> security people are saying it is impossible.  This seems like another 
> instance, no?
> 
> Oh heck, let me ask the uncomfortable question:  Russ, did you know this or 
> was Martin's point new to you?
> 
>         /r$
> 
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