A side note: we will also upload the Markdown file of this draft into the same git repository at https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> later to make it a totally public involved progress.
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Kepeng Li <[email protected]> wrote: > > Currently, we uploaded some of the referenced documents here: > https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec > <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> > > @Rene, Parts 1 and 3 can be found in the link above. > > Hope it helps. > > Thanks, > > Kind Regards > Kepeng > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > 发件人：李克鹏(易深) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > 发送时间：2019年8月19日(星期一) 17:38 > 收件人：sean+ietf <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; joe > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; caw <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > 抄 送：[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; > "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; > Paul Yang <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > 主 题：Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 > > Hi WG chairs, > > Can we place the referenced documents in the TLS WG GitHub? > https://github.com/tlswg <https://github.com/tlswg> > > According to the discussion below, this can help people to read and > understand the referenced specifications. > > Thanks, > > Kind Regards > Kepeng > > 发件人: TLS <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 代表 "Blumenthal, > Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > 日期: 2019年8月18日 星期日 22:08 > 收件人: Paul Yang <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > 抄送: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > 主题: Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 > > IMHO, placing the documents on GitHub would be perfect, and quite sufficient. > > Please make sure to post the name of the repo here. ;/) > > I leave it to others to decide whether they'd want copies of today PDF files > sent to the mailing list directly. > > Regards, > Uri > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2019, at 01:03, Paul Yang <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Good points. > > The good news is that we have found some English PDFs of SM2, including the > missing part 1 and part 3. Will continue to find English translations of > other SM standards mentioned in the draft. > > So, if we host a free website, say on Github or so, to provide those docs, is > it convenient for you guys? Or should we just drop the PDF files to this > mailing list as attachments? > > > On Aug 16, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Rene Struik <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Arguably, "national" crypto specifications garnish more stature if these are > made available to the pubic by that standard-setting body itself (who, > thereby, acts as its authoritative source), without deference to a third > party (that may, independently from the originator, enforce document control > [e.g., by effectuating technical changes or enforcing controlled > dissemination]). > > Since your draft introducing SM cipher suites with TLS1.3 appeals to the > authority of a standard-setting authority, easy availability of the full and > accredited technical documentation to the IETF community helps in scrutiny > and, e.g., evaluating claims in the security considerations section. > > On 8/16/2019 3:06 AM, Kepeng Li wrote: > Hi Rene and all, > > > Since the ISO documents are not available to the general > > public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available > > document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a > > reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and > > researchers). > About the references to ISO documens, I think it is a general issue for IETF > drafts. > > How does the other IETF drafts make the references to ISO documents? ISO > documents are often referenced by IETF drafts. > > Thanks, > > Kind Regards > Kepeng > —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— > Re: [TLS] Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 > > Rene Struik <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Thu, 15 > August 2019 15:34 UTCShow header > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls/?index=NHbHOGtsR1S5cCr9nWN9_sdyTgg&gbt=1> > Hi Paul: > > I tried and look up the documents GMT.0009-2012 and GBT.32918.5-2016 on > the (non-secured) websites you referenced, but only found Chinese > versions (and Chinese website navigation panels [pardon my poor language > skills here]). Since the ISO documents are not available to the general > public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available > document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a > reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and > researchers). Please note that BSI provides its specifications in German > and English, so as to foster use/study by the community. If the Chinese > national algorithms would be available in similar form, this would serve > a similar purpose. > > FYI - I am interested in full details and some time last year I tried to > download specs, but only Parts 2, 4, and 5 were available [1], [2], [3], > not Parts 1 and 3. > > Best regards, Rene > > [1] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - > Part 5 - Parameter Definition (SEMB, July 24, 2018) > [2] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - > Part 2 - Digital Signature Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) > [3] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - > Part 4 - Public Key Encryption Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) > > On 8/15/2019 10:16 AM, Paul Yang wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have submitted a new internet draft to introduce the SM cipher > > suites into TLS 1.3 protocol. > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00 > > <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00> > > > > SM cryptographic algorithms are originally a set of Chinese national > > algorithms and now have been (or being) accepted by ISO as > > international standards, including SM2 signature algorithm, SM3 hash > > function and SM4 block cipher. These algorithms have already been > > supported some time ago by several widely used open source > > cryptographic libraries including OpenSSL, BouncyCastle, Botan, etc. > > > > Considering TLS1.3 is being gradually adopted in China's internet > > industry, it's important to have a normative definition on how to use > > the SM algorithms with TLS1.3, especially for the mobile internet > > scenario. Ant Financial is the company who develops the market leading > > mobile app 'Alipay' and supports payment services for Alibaba > > e-commerce business. We highly are depending on the new TLS1.3 > > protocol for both performance and security purposes. We expect to have > > more deployment of TLS1.3 capable applications in China's internet > > industry by this standardization attempts. > > > > It's very appreciated to have comments from the IETF TLS list :-) > > > > Many thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TLS mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> > > > -- > email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> | Skype: rstruik > cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> > > > Regards, > > Paul Yang > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> Regards, Paul Yang
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