Hi there, Just to keep the it consistent with what previous email said - the Markdown file of the draft has been pushed to the repo:
https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> Please check: https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/blob/master/BUILD.md <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/blob/master/BUILD.md> for detailed information. Thanks. > On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:57 PM, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > A side note: we will also upload the Markdown file of this draft into the > > same git > > repository at https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec > <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> later to make it a totally > > public involved progress. > > I think this is exactly what was needed/asked-for. Thank you! > > >> On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Kepeng Li <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Currently, we uploaded some of the referenced documents here: >> https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec >> <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> >> >> @Rene, Parts 1 and 3 can be found in the link above. >> >> Hope it helps. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kind Regards >> Kepeng >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> 发件人：李克鹏(易深) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> 发送时间：2019年8月19日(星期一) 17:38 >>> 收件人：sean+ietf <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; joe >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; caw <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> 抄 送：[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; Paul Yang >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> 主 题：Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 >>> >>> Hi WG chairs, >>> >>> Can we place the referenced documents in the TLS WG GitHub? >>> https://github.com/tlswg <https://github.com/tlswg> >>> >>> According to the discussion below, this can help people to read and >>> understand the referenced specifications. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kind Regards >>> Kepeng >>> >>> 发件人: TLS <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 代表 >>> "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> 日期: 2019年8月18日 星期日 22:08 >>> 收件人: Paul Yang <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> 抄送: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> 主题: Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 >>> >>> IMHO, placing the documents on GitHub would be perfect, and quite >>> sufficient. >>> >>> Please make sure to post the name of the repo here. ;/) >>> >>> I leave it to others to decide whether they'd want copies of today PDF >>> files sent to the mailing list directly. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Uri >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 17, 2019, at 01:03, Paul Yang >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Good points. >>> >>> The good news is that we have found some English PDFs of SM2, including the >>> missing part 1 and part 3. Will continue to find English translations of >>> other SM standards mentioned in the draft. >>> >>> So, if we host a free website, say on Github or so, to provide those docs, >>> is it convenient for you guys? Or should we just drop the PDF files to >>> this mailing list as attachments? >>> >>> >>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Rene Struik <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Arguably, "national" crypto specifications garnish more stature if these >>> are made available to the pubic by that standard-setting body itself (who, >>> thereby, acts as its authoritative source), without deference to a third >>> party (that may, independently from the originator, enforce document >>> control [e.g., by effectuating technical changes or enforcing controlled >>> dissemination]). >>> >>> Since your draft introducing SM cipher suites with TLS1.3 appeals to the >>> authority of a standard-setting authority, easy availability of the full >>> and accredited technical documentation to the IETF community helps in >>> scrutiny and, e.g., evaluating claims in the security considerations >>> section. >>> >>> On 8/16/2019 3:06 AM, Kepeng Li wrote: >>> Hi Rene and all, >>> >>> > Since the ISO documents are not available to the general >>> > public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available >>> > document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a >>> > reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and >>> > researchers). >>> About the references to ISO documens, I think it is a general issue for >>> IETF drafts. >>> >>> How does the other IETF drafts make the references to ISO documents? ISO >>> documents are often referenced by IETF drafts. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kind Regards >>> Kepeng >>> —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— >>> Re: [TLS] Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 >>> >>> Rene Struik <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Thu, 15 >>> August 2019 15:34 UTCShow header >>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls/?index=NHbHOGtsR1S5cCr9nWN9_sdyTgg&gbt=1> >>> Hi Paul: >>> >>> I tried and look up the documents GMT.0009-2012 and GBT.32918.5-2016 on >>> the (non-secured) websites you referenced, but only found Chinese >>> versions (and Chinese website navigation panels [pardon my poor language >>> skills here]). Since the ISO documents are not available to the general >>> public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available >>> document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a >>> reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and >>> researchers). Please note that BSI provides its specifications in German >>> and English, so as to foster use/study by the community. If the Chinese >>> national algorithms would be available in similar form, this would serve >>> a similar purpose. >>> >>> FYI - I am interested in full details and some time last year I tried to >>> download specs, but only Parts 2, 4, and 5 were available [1], [2], [3], >>> not Parts 1 and 3. >>> >>> Best regards, Rene >>> >>> [1] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>> Part 5 - Parameter Definition (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>> [2] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>> Part 2 - Digital Signature Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>> [3] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>> Part 4 - Public Key Encryption Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>> >>> On 8/15/2019 10:16 AM, Paul Yang wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I have submitted a new internet draft to introduce the SM cipher >>> > suites into TLS 1.3 protocol. >>> > >>> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00 >>> > <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00> >>> > >>> > SM cryptographic algorithms are originally a set of Chinese national >>> > algorithms and now have been (or being) accepted by ISO as >>> > international standards, including SM2 signature algorithm, SM3 hash >>> > function and SM4 block cipher. These algorithms have already been >>> > supported some time ago by several widely used open source >>> > cryptographic libraries including OpenSSL, BouncyCastle, Botan, etc. >>> > >>> > Considering TLS1.3 is being gradually adopted in China's internet >>> > industry, it's important to have a normative definition on how to use >>> > the SM algorithms with TLS1.3, especially for the mobile internet >>> > scenario. Ant Financial is the company who develops the market leading >>> > mobile app 'Alipay' and supports payment services for Alibaba >>> > e-commerce business. We highly are depending on the new TLS1.3 >>> > protocol for both performance and security purposes. We expect to have >>> > more deployment of TLS1.3 capable applications in China's internet >>> > industry by this standardization attempts. >>> > >>> > It's very appreciated to have comments from the IETF TLS list :-) >>> > >>> > Many thanks! >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TLS mailing list >>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> | Skype: rstruik >>> cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Paul Yang >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> >>> _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> > > > Regards, > > Paul Yang Regards, Paul Yang
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