Kepeng, It seems that this request is OBE (over taken by events) now that you’ve posted the referenced specifications to: https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec
Cheers, spt > On Aug 19, 2019, at 05:38, Kepeng Li <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi WG chairs, > > Can we place the referenced documents in the TLS WG GitHub? > https://github.com/tlswg > > According to the discussion below, this can help people to read and > understand the referenced specifications. > > Thanks, > > Kind Regards > Kepeng > > 发件人: TLS <[email protected]> 代表 "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" > <[email protected]> > 日期: 2019年8月18日 星期日 22:08 > 收件人: Paul Yang <[email protected]> > 抄送: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > 主题: Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 > > IMHO, placing the documents on GitHub would be perfect, and quite sufficient. > > Please make sure to post the name of the repo here. ;/) > > I leave it to others to decide whether they'd want copies of today PDF files > sent to the mailing list directly. > > Regards, > Uri > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 17, 2019, at 01:03, Paul Yang <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Good points. >> >> The good news is that we have found some English PDFs of SM2, including the >> missing part 1 and part 3. Will continue to find English translations of >> other SM standards mentioned in the draft. >> >> So, if we host a free website, say on Github or so, to provide those docs, >> is it convenient for you guys? Or should we just drop the PDF files to >> this mailing list as attachments? >> >> >>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Rene Struik <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Arguably, "national" crypto specifications garnish more stature if these >>> are made available to the pubic by that standard-setting body itself (who, >>> thereby, acts as its authoritative source), without deference to a third >>> party (that may, independently from the originator, enforce document >>> control [e.g., by effectuating technical changes or enforcing controlled >>> dissemination]). >>> >>> Since your draft introducing SM cipher suites with TLS1.3 appeals to the >>> authority of a standard-setting authority, easy availability of the full >>> and accredited technical documentation to the IETF community helps in >>> scrutiny and, e.g., evaluating claims in the security considerations >>> section. >>> >>> On 8/16/2019 3:06 AM, Kepeng Li wrote: >>>> Hi Rene and all, >>>> >>>> > Since the ISO documents are not available to the general >>>> > public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available >>>> > document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a >>>> > reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and >>>> > researchers). >>>> About the references to ISO documens, I think it is a general issue for >>>> IETF drafts. >>>> >>>> How does the other IETF drafts make the references to ISO documents? ISO >>>> documents are often referenced by IETF drafts. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kind Regards >>>> Kepeng >>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— >>>> Re: [TLS] Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 >>>> >>>> Rene Struik <[email protected]> Thu, 15 August 2019 15:34 UTCShow >>>> header >>>> >>>> Hi Paul: >>>> >>>> I tried and look up the documents GMT.0009-2012 and GBT.32918.5-2016 on >>>> the (non-secured) websites you referenced, but only found Chinese >>>> versions (and Chinese website navigation panels [pardon my poor language >>>> skills here]). Since the ISO documents are not available to the general >>>> public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available >>>> document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a >>>> reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and >>>> researchers). Please note that BSI provides its specifications in German >>>> and English, so as to foster use/study by the community. If the Chinese >>>> national algorithms would be available in similar form, this would serve >>>> a similar purpose. >>>> >>>> FYI - I am interested in full details and some time last year I tried to >>>> download specs, but only Parts 2, 4, and 5 were available [1], [2], [3], >>>> not Parts 1 and 3. >>>> >>>> Best regards, Rene >>>> >>>> [1] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>>> Part 5 - Parameter Definition (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>>> [2] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>>> Part 2 - Digital Signature Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>>> [3] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>>> Part 4 - Public Key Encryption Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>>> >>>> On 8/15/2019 10:16 AM, Paul Yang wrote: >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I have submitted a new internet draft to introduce the SM cipher >>>> > suites into TLS 1.3 protocol. >>>> > >>>> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00 >>>> > >>>> > SM cryptographic algorithms are originally a set of Chinese national >>>> > algorithms and now have been (or being) accepted by ISO as >>>> > international standards, including SM2 signature algorithm, SM3 hash >>>> > function and SM4 block cipher. These algorithms have already been >>>> > supported some time ago by several widely used open source >>>> > cryptographic libraries including OpenSSL, BouncyCastle, Botan, etc. >>>> > >>>> > Considering TLS1.3 is being gradually adopted in China's internet >>>> > industry, it's important to have a normative definition on how to use >>>> > the SM algorithms with TLS1.3, especially for the mobile internet >>>> > scenario. Ant Financial is the company who develops the market leading >>>> > mobile app 'Alipay' and supports payment services for Alibaba >>>> > e-commerce business. We highly are depending on the new TLS1.3 >>>> > protocol for both performance and security purposes. We expect to have >>>> > more deployment of TLS1.3 capable applications in China's internet >>>> > industry by this standardization attempts. >>>> > >>>> > It's very appreciated to have comments from the IETF TLS list :-) >>>> > >>>> > Many thanks! >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TLS mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> email: [email protected] | Skype: rstruik >>> cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Paul Yang >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
