On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 04:11:53PM +0000, Andrei Popov wrote:

> > At least as a client, you can't read anything into seeing a cert request 
> > from the server, it's just a standard part of the handshake, like a keyex 
> > or a finished.
>
> This is exactly my argument: when a client receives a cert request the
> client cannot satisfy, the RFC says send an empty Certificate and
> continue with the handshake...

Sadly, that's not what actually reliably happens in practice, or at
least that was the case when I last looked.

Perhaps all the guilty TLS stacks were fixed in the meantime?  I am not
well placed to determine how much "friction" remains.

-- 
    Viktor.

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