On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:51:51PM -0700, Jason R. Mastaler wrote:
>Do you have the same objections with your MTA software? qmail,
>postfix, exim, etc. all identify themselves up-front with
>non-customizable text in their auto-responses. What's the difference?

It's different when the response appears to be coming from Postmaster,
or a machine email address.  But when the message appears to be coming
from me (i.e. it's using some form of address that is identifiable with
me) I'd like to continue to see the advocacy as an option.

And FWIW, as far as I can tell, the only people who will get automated
messages back from my postfix are people who are allowed to use
my mailserver.  Anyone who tries to send email to my machine to a
non-existant account (for example), will get an error from their MTA, not
mine.  My MTA will reject it during the SMTP transaction.  Additionally,
my MTA is not configured to allow relaying so, unless I'm forgetting
something, no one else will get any auto responses from my postfix.

>It clearly indicates that the message is
>machine generated and not a personal reply, which is a good thing. I
>don't see how it could be detrimental.

If you want to enforce saying that this is a machine generated response, I
think that's a fine thing.  But that's different than enforcing advocacy.

The from address on TMDA generated email is a form of my email address.
In fact, I believe it includes my full name.  I don't think it's fair
to assume an endorsement of a product just because I use it.

And don't be confused by this.  If you enforced all of this stuff,
it would not change *my* behvior at all.  I'd still continue to advocate
TMDA and I'd still want it to use my name.  (I want the email confirmation
request to appear, at first glance, to have come from me.  I explain in
the text that it's machine generated.  I even include that it's generated
by TMDA and provide a link to the web page.)  I just think that advocacy
needs to remain an option.

$.02.
- Mark
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