----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason R. Mastaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:25 PM Subject: Re: Qadmin-TMDA, problems with "Special Options"
> "C. Posey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I would REALLY like to see qadmin-tmda revived. > > I'd rather see tmda-cgi extended to fill in some of the gaps between > it and qadmin-tmda. I believe Greg is working on some of this > functionality, but I'm sure he wouldn't turn down some assistance. I'm the guy who patched qadmin-tmda for the newer TMDA releases, and I despise qadmin-tmda. However, I still use it because ISP users REQUIRE a magic GUI. > > I'm not in favor of making tmda-cgi into a hand-free magic > installation tool however, as I think they are more trouble than they > are worth. They have their place. You can't put TMDA on a 500 domain mail server and expect each user to learn UNIX and TMDA just to filter their mail. Granted, admins need to learn how TMDA works under the hood, but TMDA will never see mass use until a decent (read: NOT qadmin-tmda) 'magic gui' is created and maintained. > > > I installed tmda last week and spent about 3 nights trying to get it > > up and running. Never had any luck. Installed qadmin-tmda and had > > everything fixed and running in less than 10 mins. > > The problem with magic guis is that they may help you get running > faster initially, but then you have no idea what it did or how TMDA > works. Later when you run into problems, you'll be less able to figure > them out then if you had struggled a bit in the beginning with a more > hands-on install. In the end, you'll have wasted more time with the > magic gui. Time spent learning is never lost time. Maintaining and > supporting a magic gui also tends to be a huge time-sink. Only if it's written poorly. It's just a program like any other. Qadmin-tmda actually works pretty well for end users. The problem is in the architecture, IMO. > > > Heck even point me in the right direction and even though I don't > > know python - I might be able to dig into it. > > qadmin-tmda is written in Perl AFAIK. Yes. One big poo-poo pile of Perl. > _____________________________________________ > tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users > _____________________________________________ tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users
