Thanks for the reply. I see in hindsight that my posting was a little bit unclear.
First I must say that I have no preference towards qmail, exim or any other mail transfer agent. The only reason why I "favoured" qmail was that it works with tmda with default settings, whereas Exim didn't. And since I am not a sysadm on the system my mail is hosted that seems to be an obstacle on my way to success. I am not controlling Exim at all (I am not able to su or in any other way do things which need root privileges). Is there any way for me, being an unprivileged user, to setup Exim to my presonal taste, without having to beg the sysadms to change the Exim-setup? The other issue was in regards to how I should go about o make sure that TMDA can tag my outgoing email. I am using two different email-clients for this, pine directly on the host, and Outlok Express from another PC (another LAN actually). So, the first question is how to setup pine to use tmda-sendmail. According to the documentation I must change the sendmail directive in pine. So I did, but on startup pine complains that I have settings that conflicts with the system policies (or something like that). In order for Outlook Express to work I installed tmda-ofmipd (running on 8025 since I am not a sysadmin) and conected Outlook to send mail through it. This last part worked out fine actually. Then I thought that since pine was unable to use the changed sendmail directive, maybe I should set it up to use smtp instead, and that is why I choose tmda-ofmipd for that task too. However, pine seems to ignore the smtp-config (without notifications). So, status quo is now: - Incoming mail fails during tmda-filtering, because it misses some of the required settings (I know what it should be changed to, but I don't have access to change /etc/exim/exim.conf, so I'm stuck). - Outgoing mail from Outlook Express using tmda-ofmipd works fine (I know it's not a proper smtp server, but Outlook Express seems to be happy with it, and it inserts tags into my mails as expected. - Outgoing mail from Pine is only working without tag insertions. This because it doesn't like that I am changing the sendmail-path in the config. Also I am unable to configure it to use the tmda-ofmipd server (like with OE) - I have also setup tmda-cgi in order to ease the administration, but it fails whn I try to load the tmda.cgi script with "Internal Server Error"... - I have written a detailed mail to the sysadmins requesting changes that makes tmda and tmda-cgi work for me. However, I have no idea if they are ever going to answer my request or even bother reading it at all... Therefore I am hoping that I can make tmda work with Exim without having to wait for the sysadmins to change the system-wide /etx/exim/exim.conf file. Is there any other way that I can change how Exim handles the mail operations via a user specific settings file (like a .eximrc file or similar). You are saying that with Exim I don't need tmda-ofmipd at all. Sounds great, but how is my outgoing mail from Outlook Express (running on a windows PC on a different net) going to be tagged with Exim? OE is (normally) connected to the ISP's smtp server. The ISP in this case is *not* the same network that is hosting my mail server. My mail server is the university student foundation's mail server where I just happen to have a free acount (for life - lucky me :). Any ideas? Best regards, Ronny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Starrenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Newbie: Exim vs tmda-ofmipd? > On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:32:40 GMT, Ronny Hanssen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > far so good, but the admins then found that they wanted to change into > > Exim instead. Which seems like it has a bit more cumbersome road to > > Success(tm)... > Well actually I wouldn't agree with that - I have used both and > personally (for business and home use) prefer Exim. But that's a personal > preference discussion not relevant here. > > Just because the tmda list is mostly qmail folks don't assume that there > are not Exim people lurking :-) > > > My question is real basic: I see from the pre-configuration pages that > > Exim needs some extra settings. I have browsed the system > > /etc/exim/exim.conf file and some of the required settings are > > missing. Is there any way that I can get around this? Can I make a > > local exim.conf file to override the system one (I guess not...)?. > What do you want to know? How to config Exim to work with tmda? What > version of Exim are you running? It's easy to configure. > > > Secondly; my clients are running either as pine in a ssh-session on > > the server, or via Outlook Express (on WinXP). I have setup > > tmda-ofmipd on the server and I am sending mails via this interface > > without problems from Outlook Express (running tmda-ofmipd as a user > > process in the background). However, how can I setup pine to use the > > tmda-ofmipd server instead of sendmail? > Well firstly with Exim you don't need extra overhead of running tmda- > ofmipd at all don't know if qmail gives you this facility though (oops > bias creeping in :-) ). > > OK being serious now, have a look at > http://tmda.net/faq.cgi?req=show&file=faq07.006.htp > > > > Also, I might be wrong, but I understand it so that if I use > > tmda-ofmipd for all mails I send (also for pine), then I don't have to > > worry about the Exim setup? Or have I totally misunderstood what > > tmda-ofmipd is doing? > ?? Think you misunderstand what tmda-ofmpid is meant to be for. It's not > a full featured MTA like Exim and qmail don't go down that road. > > > Also, I am planning on including a spamassasin check before the > > message is transported to TMDA. Instructions for this I have found on > > the net. However - how do I go about to use RBL (real-time Black List) > > even before the spamassasin check? Or must the RBL check be > > implemented by the host sysadmins? > Exim has full support for spamassassin plus a couple of 'addon-ons' - > Exiscan and Exim-SA which give you many many options. > > To use RBL's in Exim is trivial - read the Exim spec doc or you might > want to visit the Exim mailing list which you can do more easily on Gmane > news server at gmane.mail.exim.user > > Cheers > > Patrick > > _____________________________________________ > tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users > _____________________________________________ tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users
