On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:47:09 -0600, Jason R. Mastaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:
> Monique Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> (I originally was using fetchmail, but I couldn't figure out how to
>> make tmda handle confirms properly for this with exim ... the
>> confirms always said they were "from" [EMAIL PROTECTED], same with
>> reply-to ...)
> 
> This can be worked around, but it's better to not use fetchmail with
> TMDA anyway.  I've found it's not as reliable, and it also introduces
> a delay into the confirmation process.

Yeah, and this way I'm not spamming my password every few minutes (the
pair account doesn't have ssl email options, though the tech support guy
was sympathetic and agreed with me that it would be a nice feature).
The main nice thing about using fetchmail is that, if your ISP suddenly
decides to hate you or something, you don't need to worry about lost
email.  Then again, that's why I'm in the process of arranging for a
backup MX ...

<snip>
> 
> Are you able to edit a .forward or .procmailrc file for this account?
> If so, I've provided a sample recipe that forwards messages with the
> original envelope sender.  See
> http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-workers/2001-09/msg00040.html
> 
> Next, look carefully at the message headers of a mailsnare forward.
> Is there any header at all which contains the original envelope
> sender?  Even if it's in a different header than Return-Path, there
> are options.
> 
> If you have no way to change the forwarding mechanism, and they don't
> provide any record of the original envelope sender, I'd complain to
> mailsnare and see what they can do for you.  Basically, they are
> crippling your ability to use auto-responder softwares with your
> mailsnare address.  And don't let them tell you that auto-responders
> like TMDA should be using the "From:" header from the message instead
> of the envelope sender address.  That is erroneous, and I can provide
> supporting evidence if need be.

Sadly, I have no shell access through mailsnare, so I don't think
solutions involving files will work.

Furthermore, after examining the message under a microscope, I have
concluded that the only field with the original sender's address is the
'From' field.  So ... I guess I will email them, but my expectations of
them fixing this is low.

Thanks for all the information and suggestions!

-- monique

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