Hi,

From: "Jason R. Mastaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tmda-ofmipd: patch for imap[s] and pop3 remote auth
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:17:16 -0600

> A normal use of APOP is say between an MUA like Eudora, and a pop3
> server.  The user enters his username and shared secret into his
> Eudora configuration.  When he retrieves his incoming mail, Eudora
> handles the APOP negotiation with the server.  The user need not be
> concerned with these details.  Right?

Yes.

> tmda-ofmipd is substituted for Eudora in this equation.  You would
> use your APOP username and shared secret as the username/password in
> the SMTP authentication configuration of whatever MUA you are using.
> When that MUA connects to tmda-ofmipd, it uses the username and shared
> secret to authenticate.  Once tmda-ofmipd has these pieces, it will
> connect to the pop3 server and perform APOP authentication to verify
> them.

Ok, this sounds a bit like something I wrote earlier:

  I suppose an alternative might be for the user's client to send the
  password in plaintext to tmda-ofmipd and for tmda-ofmipd to compute
  the hashed value

Unless I can use CRAM-MD5, it doesn't seem like a good idea -- it
seems to me that the whole point of using APOP is being defeated
(prevention of leakage of a secret in transit across a network) --
especially if LOGIN or PLAIN must be used for SMTP AUTH.  Does that
sound right?

It sounds like from what you say:

> Start tmda-ofmipd with something like:
> 
>   # tmda-ofmipd -d -R apop://acl.lanl.gov
> 
> In your MUA, remember that you have to use either LOGIN or PLAIN (not
> CRAM-MD5) for the SMTP auth method.  For your SMTP auth username,
> enter your APOP username, and for your SMTP auth password, enter your
> APOP shared secret phrase.

it isn't currently possible to use CRAM-MD5 w/ tmda-ofmipd+APOP.  Is
that correct?  If so, why might that be?  It's not that the shared
secret is stored as a "context", is it?

It seems to me that from a theoretical point-of-view, it should be
possible...

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