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On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 06:52:00PM +0300, Stephen Biggs wrote:
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>Even though your FAQ states 
>(erroneously) that most spam is unrepliable, this is simply not the case.  
>Most spam that I am receiving nowadays has a real email address in the 
>"reply-to" or "from" fields... the problem is that the email address is NOT 
>that of the spammer, rather that of an innocent third-party or worse yet, 
>someone who came to the attention of the spammer by complaining about his 
>spam in the first place.

1. TMDA challenges the envelope sender, not From or Reply-To.
2. Can you show that most of your spam has live addresses?  I looked into
this question a few months ago.  Look at what I found:

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2004-02/msg00541.html

(Long story short, about 30% of my challenges were delivered, not "most.")

>Thus, you have the situation of the spammer spewing out his garbage of 100,000 
>emails, each with the "joe-jobbed" email address, and then that person 
>getting back 100,000 replies (in your perfect world where everybody runs 
>challenge/response). Bogus.

Nyuck nyuck nyuck!  In the perfect world, where everybody runs
challenge/response, the bogus challenges wouldn't reach the bogus
recipients!  I get them daily, but they don't make it to my mailbox.

>Also, re: FAQ,number 1.13: [...]

If Spamcop has silly policies, lets take them out of the FAQ.  Personally,
I just blacklist the address.  The FAQ says, "This happens so rarely, that I
tend to ignore it."  I have to agree.

>Just some thoughts.

Thanks!
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Kyle Hasselbacher         Line noise?  I don't hav$#ok&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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