Kevin you are naughty aren't you?  Poor Liz!  I don't know about the therapy, 
I'm really not a great believer in it.  I believe that at the end of the day, 
you just have to do it yourself.  With maybe a little help from some happy 
pills.  Zoloft is my drug of choice.

I don't do any pain meds because they make me feel like a zombie.  I use my 
mind instead.  Since I can't do the physical things I used to be able to do and 
just get in the way when I try to, I have taken to keeping myself completely 
absorbed in my craft.

I do a few small chores, I do the washing, cooking (mostly) and just bits and 
pieces as and when I can.  By keeping myself occupied I make it easier for 
those around me.  Like Jeanne, I love to laugh and never take myself too 
seriously (if at all).

It's up to you Kevin.  You can choose to be a pain in the arse or you can take 
great care of your wonderful caregiver.

hugs
Gilly


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kevin weilacher 
  To: Gillian Clark ; TM list 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?


  Hi Gilly,
  It's Kevin here...one in the same from the TM Network and also Facebook...
  I just want to say...you hit the nail on the head with me...About letting 
things go...I'm having an incredibly hard time with that right now...I'm on 
Wellbutrin right now and have been for just over a month...I've noticed no 
improvement so far. Before Wellbutrin I was on Effexor...it did nothing either.
  I get sooooo  irritated with some of the people in my household..(without 
going into a lot of detail..I have a very complicated household situation with 
the number of people that live here) 
  I used to be able to let go of things before, because I would normally do the 
things that tick me off now. I would do them because it was stuff that kept me 
busy and I liked that. It drives me nuts to not be able to do some of the 
things that I used to do.
  Because of that, I get very bent out of shape when something that needs done, 
doesn't get done or doesn't get done the way I think it should be done.
  This has obviously caused some friction between my wife (Lizzie at Caregivers 
Count Too!) and I. 
  I am currently going to therapy sessions twice a month...and of course they 
are stressing that I need to try and let go of some things. They even went over 
the Serenity prayer with me. My Psychiatrist even prescribed Ativan 
(anti-anxiety med) to take when I am feeling like things are getting a bit 
tense..
  I've taken them a couple of times....she told me to take one, two or three 
depending how tense I was. I've found that taking one does nothing, two barely 
anything and three just barely takes the edge off. So, needless to say...at my 
next appointment I'm going to address this situation. I don't know if my meds 
need adjusting or what.
  I'm trying to get better at letting things go...lord knows I'm trying....but 
I think the bullheaded, stubborn ass German in me is hindering me.
  I don't know...  
  Anyway....that's all for now..
  Kevin




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  From: Gillian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: TM list <[email protected]>
  Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:44:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

   
  Jeanne, I took a lot of convincing to take the anti depressants and only did 
because I've known my doctor for many many years.

  I'm so pleased he convinced me, they have been wonderful for me and since 
TMer's have the highest percentage of suicides (apparently) we should all be on 
them.  I would suspect that most of our carer's should be too :-)).

  Just digressing a little now while I'm thinking of it.  After all the 
discussion we've had lately about carers, I've been thinking back to when that 
was my job.  I loved it but with many apologies to those with MS, the patients 
I found most difficult were those with MS.  That could be because I didn't have 
any with TM!

  The point of telling you this is that we can make our lives and our carers 
much easier by letting go of very many things.  Because we get frustrated that 
we can't do things and others aren't doing them just the way we want and when 
we want is no reason to take it out on everybody.  

  Set yourself new priorities and remember, the world still turns no matter if 
you do things or don't and how those things are done if somebody else does them.

  Another 2c worth from me
  Gilly
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: jrushton 
    To: Gillian Clark ; TMIC 
    Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:48 AM
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?


    Just a note on the antidepressants...  When I was in ICU and getting ready 
to be discharged the neurologist insisted that I do not be without them.  He 
said people with issues like we have really do need them and since then, I can 
understand it.  It isn't something to be ashamed of and there are so many 
different kinds now that if one doesn't seem to work, you can try another one.  

    Growing up in the 50's and 60's, if you went to your doctor and told 
him/her (mostly him at that time) that you were depressed he would tell you it 
was all in your mind and if a person insisted on getting something you would be 
given Valium.  Thank God they have finally come so far!  They have also helped 
women with PMS big time.  j

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