Thanks Todd....   Yes, and since I gave him "life"  he owes me big time
!!!!!

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Todd Tarno <[email protected]>wrote:

> Chris will be a Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine...
>
> So, does this mean that you have your own private doctor now? LOL
> I bet Chris is glad to be done. lol  Congratulation!!!
> Todd in CC, TX
>
> --- On *Tue, 6/30/09, Trudy Ogilvie <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Trudy Ogilvie <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!
> To: "Robert Pall" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 2:19 PM
>
>
> Rob That is the question of the day!!  I just wish somehow we would be
> able to tell when too much is too much..  It's been seven years of stop and
> go exercise. And who can really tell us that answer..   Yes, if my body
> would give me some indication that I should slow it down.... NO, NO....
> and we pay for days and then stop exercise. Rob I am 63 years young. I
> believe that exercise is a key to staying healthy... BUT.... I am soooo
> frustrated. I work out on the machines at the gym then a swim... that was
> NOT good.  So choose my poison... swim or gym???  I've been doing some
> travelling lately and I am home after a week back on Long Island. Took me 7
> hours to drive up... did I tell you Rob (no offense) but I HATE
> the ^^%#**## New Jersey Turnpike....  almost as much as I hate the %%$#@
> Belt Pkwy...  It was a fantastic trip... and of course you have to party at
> least one or two nights. I worked my way from Islip, L.I. then to Mineola,
> then to Forest Hills, then to the BIG APPLE.  Then drove home to Va.
> early Sat. morning only to hit horrendous traffic on a bridge just outside
> the Holland Tunnel.  I know this is too much info for everyone but your
> stuck with me and I want to share my blessings and my curses with this
> group!!  I have taken 1 and 1/2 Vicodin every day since I've been home. I'm
> getting ready for my trip next week to Phoenix for my son's graduation. BUT
>  my husband, my hero, will be with me and will take good care of me as will
> my four adult children. And we will be in one place all week. Chris will be
> a Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine... it's been a very long journey for him
> but he has accomplished his dream.  O.K I will put you all out of your
> misery with this toooo long e-mail.....   take care!
> Blessings
> Trudy
> "Find the thing that stirs your heart
> and make room for it."  Joan Chittister
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Robert Pall 
> <[email protected]<http://us.mc822.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>>          I refuse to even discuss the petty arguments and disagreements
>> that seem to happens several times a year. To discuss them actually provides
>> legitimacy to the discussion. Stop being so quick to argue and remember the
>> purpose of the list. No one needs to take sides….if what is written does not
>> apply or offers words you do not care for…just delete it!
>>         Do you ever think of how a new visitor to the site reacts to
>> bickering….my guess is it turns them off…and that is a tragedy! If one
>> member has a problem with what someone else says. why not try to just
>> contact that person directly and not to the group as a whole. Remember we
>> are all in this together and inevitably when these things occur the next
>> thing that happens is we see the word "unsubscribe". When one is in 24/7
>> pain and discomfort it is easy to pick a fight or disagreement…anything at
>> all to avoid what is really the problem. TM
>> New topic: Exercise
>>         Exercise….when is enough enough?
>>         I tend to exercise in spurts….I am either following a regular
>> routine or giving into my pain and discomfort and doing nothing at all!  I
>> am not very good at knowing when I am overdoing it and therefore make the
>> same mistakes over and over. After pretty much doing nothing for the past 6
>> months I am now back to swimming 3-4 times per week and I have never felt
>> worse. My legs feel weighed down and I am walking far worse than normal. The
>> level of discomfort and Pain are also off my charts. So what do I
>> do….probably stop exercising and see if my legs feel better….that being said
>> we have had horribly huimid,wet weather in the New York area the entire
>> month of June…so I am not certain if the over exercising or the weather is
>> making the TM flare up. Even after 12 years I have not really learned to
>> listen to my body….part of this is due to the fact that I am not in
>> discomfort while exercising….but hours later it is as if my body is just
>> realizing I over did it and I have to pay the price.
>>         My main exercise is swimming (and a little treadmill)….for the
>> first 10 years of TM I had far fewer breaks from the exercise routine …and
>> then all of a sudden when I hit 60 I kinda gave up and threw in the towel….I
>> kinda just quit. I felt hopeless and helpless…therefore I just started back
>> on my routine…and so far the pain far outweighs the gain.
>>         I will attempt to introduce "moderation" to my exercise and try
>> to remember I am closing in on 62 so I would guess non related TM problems
>> are beginning to surface such as arthritis. I still have a lot on my plate…I
>> drive 80 miles a day to work and sometimes I am just so exhausted that the
>> thought of a workout is something I cannot handle. That being said I do find
>> that when I let myself get out of shape and gain addl. Weight I always feel
>> worse…and I can assure you that this is not a vanity issue.
>>         I would appreciate hearing from the group as to what exercises
>> works for them…how do you know when you are over doing it? I am seeing Dr.
>> Kerr on Weds and will pose the question to him…I have a feeling he will
>> stress moderation and developing a routine that will keep my muscles from
>> atrophying while a t the same time not exhausting me to the point of pain.
>>         OK…enough for now…let's get back on topic!
>> Rob in New Jersey
>>
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