Trudy,
Forgot to ask. What exactly is Nathuropathic Medicine? By the way,
congratulations. You must be
so proud of him. Janice
----- Original Message -----
From: Trudy Ogilvie
To: Todd Tarno
Cc: TMIC
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!
Thanks Todd.... Yes, and since I gave him "life" he owes me big time !!!!!
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Todd Tarno <[email protected]> wrote:
Chris will be a Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine...
So, does this mean that you have your own private doctor now? LOL
I bet Chris is glad to be done. lol Congratulation!!!
Todd in CC, TX
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Trudy Ogilvie <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Trudy Ogilvie <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!
To: "Robert Pall" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 2:19 PM
Rob
That is the question of the day!! I just wish somehow we would be
able to tell when too much is too much.. It's been seven years of stop and go
exercise. And who can really tell us that answer.. Yes, if my body would give
me some indication that I should slow it down.... NO, NO....
and we pay for days and then stop exercise. Rob I am 63 years
young. I believe that exercise is a key to staying healthy... BUT.... I am soooo
frustrated. I work out on the machines at the gym then a swim...
that was NOT good. So choose my poison... swim or gym??? I've been doing some
travelling lately and I am home after a week back on Long Island. Took me 7
hours to drive up... did I tell you Rob (no offense) but I HATE
the ^^%#**## New Jersey Turnpike.... almost as much as I hate the
%%$#@ Belt Pkwy... It was a fantastic trip... and of course you have to party
at least one or two nights. I worked my way from Islip, L.I. then to Mineola,
then to Forest Hills, then to the BIG APPLE. Then drove home to Va.
early Sat. morning only to hit horrendous traffic on a bridge just
outside the Holland Tunnel. I know this is too much info for everyone but your
stuck with me and I want to share my blessings and my curses with this group!!
I have taken 1 and 1/2 Vicodin every day since I've been home. I'm getting
ready for my trip next week to Phoenix for my son's graduation. BUT my
husband, my hero, will be with me and will take good care of me as will my four
adult children. And we will be in one place all week. Chris will be a Doctor of
Naturopathic Medicine... it's been a very long journey for him but he has
accomplished his dream. O.K I will put you all out of your misery with this
toooo long e-mail..... take care!
Blessings
Trudy
"Find the thing that stirs your heart
and make room for it." Joan Chittister
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Robert Pall
<[email protected]> wrote:
I refuse to even discuss the petty arguments and
disagreements that seem to happens several times a year. To discuss them
actually provides legitimacy to the discussion. Stop being so quick to argue
and remember the purpose of the list. No one needs to take sides….if what is
written does not apply or offers words you do not care for…just delete it!
Do you ever think of how a new visitor to the site reacts
to bickering….my guess is it turns them off…and that is a tragedy! If one
member has a problem with what someone else says. why not try to just contact
that person directly and not to the group as a whole. Remember we are all in
this together and inevitably when these things occur the next thing that
happens is we see the word "unsubscribe". When one is in 24/7 pain and
discomfort it is easy to pick a fight or disagreement…anything at all to avoid
what is really the problem. TM
New topic: Exercise
Exercise….when is enough enough?
I tend to exercise in spurts….I am either following a
regular routine or giving into my pain and discomfort and doing nothing at all!
I am not very good at knowing when I am overdoing it and therefore make the
same mistakes over and over. After pretty much doing nothing for the past 6
months I am now back to swimming 3-4 times per week and I have never felt
worse. My legs feel weighed down and I am walking far worse than normal. The
level of discomfort and Pain are also off my charts. So what do I do….probably
stop exercising and see if my legs feel better….that being said we have had
horribly huimid,wet weather in the New York area the entire month of June…so I
am not certain if the over exercising or the weather is making the TM flare up.
Even after 12 years I have not really learned to listen to my body….part of
this is due to the fact that I am not in discomfort while exercising….but hours
later it is as if my body is just realizing I over did it and I have to pay the
price.
My main exercise is swimming (and a little
treadmill)….for the first 10 years of TM I had far fewer breaks from the
exercise routine …and then all of a sudden when I hit 60 I kinda gave up and
threw in the towel….I kinda just quit. I felt hopeless and helpless…therefore I
just started back on my routine…and so far the pain far outweighs the gain.
I will attempt to introduce "moderation" to my exercise
and try to remember I am closing in on 62 so I would guess non related TM
problems are beginning to surface such as arthritis. I still have a lot on my
plate…I drive 80 miles a day to work and sometimes I am just so exhausted that
the thought of a workout is something I cannot handle. That being said I do
find that when I let myself get out of shape and gain addl. Weight I always
feel worse…and I can assure you that this is not a vanity issue.
I would appreciate hearing from the group as to what
exercises works for them…how do you know when you are over doing it? I am
seeing Dr. Kerr on Weds and will pose the question to him…I have a feeling he
will stress moderation and developing a routine that will keep my muscles from
atrophying while a t the same time not exhausting me to the point of pain.
OK…enough for now…let's get back on topic!
Rob in New Jersey
