I guess that my first chiro was as far from a frog as could be.  We clicked 
right away as her help was immense.   I loved it when she pushed on my spine 
till it 'talked', same with my neck. 
I will visit her again as soon as there is a need.

BobbyJim
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [email protected] 
  To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 4:30
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Chiropractic treatment


  Hi Jude,
  In my case, had I not had the fusion, the curve in my spine would have 
continued to progress and would have eventually crippled me. The doctor who 
performed the surgery said I might have ended up with the side under my armpit 
nearly touching my hip. In addition, it can adversely affect your internal 
organs. At age 19, I had a 4-and-a-half-hour surgery to fuse nine vertebrae in 
my upper back and wore body casts for 11 months. Thank goodness I didn't have 
to have Harrington rods attached to my spine.

  I originally had to wear a Milwaukee brace when I was 12, but it didn't work 
as we hoped it would. The idea was to wear it until my bones stopped growing - 
at about 18 or 20. But because my spine was also revolving besides curving in a 
sideways "S", I had difficulty wearing the brace. It only lasted 2 years.

  After that I spent the next several years wearing a corset-style brace and 
going to a chiropractor to help ease my back pain and relieve my headaches... 
because my neck axis is "off" due to the curvature, I suffered severe 
headaches. However, my parents and I knew chiropractic manipulation only helped 
the symptoms and would never "cure" the problem - even though two chiropractors 
I went to tried to convince us otherwise. 

  Just as the saying goes "you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince," 
you also must be diligent about finding a "good" chiropractor! There are many 
quacks out there and you have to keep trying until you find one that helps you 
without taking advantage of you. I soon found I had to take control of when I 
needed to see the chiropractor. Nearly all of them will try to make you come in 
3 times a week to start for a couple weeks or months, then 2 times a week for 
several more months, then once a week "maintenance". If you are truly "in 
touch" with your own body, you know when you need to see a chiropractor. It got 
to where when they tried to schedule me for my next visit, I told them I'd call 
when I needed to come in again.

  I do believe chiropractors help people in pain, it's just too bad there are 
so many "frogs" out there! 

  Betty     


  In a message dated 4/4/2011 12:44:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
    Hi Betty,

    Why does one have fused vertibrae?  I have always wondered what the 
benefits are and so many people have had it done.  Not one of my docs has ever 
suggested it and I forget to bring it up.

    Much love,
    Jude


    Practice Random Acts of Kindness


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Beeclark <[email protected]>
    To: tmic-list <[email protected]>
    Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 9:45 pm
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] Chiropractic treatment


    I've wondered about that too... I've had Scoliosis since I was 12, had 9 
vertebrae fused together at 19 and now TM. Wish i could hit the Lottery with 
that much luck!

    Betty
    (in Northern Calicornia)

    In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:53:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
      There is a good amount of people with TM that has had spine injuries 
prior to getting TM.  Is there a connection to this or just coincidence?  Does 
anyone know?

      Emily Meyers



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      From: bobby jim [mailto:[email protected]] 
      Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 7:41 PM
      To: Bob and Sue Mattis; TMIC list
      Subject: Re: [TMIC] Chiropractic treatment

      Well, I have spondylolisthesys at L-2,3  ....  which means that L-3 is 
out of place and pulled back from L-2.   I got it in the mid 1980s when trying 
to lift a very heavy window without support.   
      I felt a ping in my lower back, but that was all.   
      I forgot about it till:  after trying to move a crate weighing over 220 
lbs, I pulled that old injury to my spine and a few dayze later, I had a bad 
case of sciatica and then lumbago.   So I went to a chiropractor who took 
x-rays of my spine, pinpointed the troubling spot and proceeded to manipulate 
my back, pushing here, massaging there, etc........   
      My neck was also having a bout of crepitation so she worked on that one 
as well.      Five years afterwards, I lost all discomfort in my back and neck. 
  
      Yes, it took that long....but it was worth it.  However,  when I overdo 
it at work some 'pain' comes back so I do some exercises she also taught me, 
some involve stretching and bending; and when doing some of them I can 'hear' 
my spine shifting (crunch crunch) and the 'pain' is gone.  Same with my neck.   
The noises have never bothered me, and have never been threatening to my back 
or neck.

      I've heard of some horror stories about chiropractors.   But not me.... 
did I luck out.......????
      If I had to do it again, I'd jump right in.

      BobbyJim                   
        From: Bob and Sue Mattis 
        To: TMIC list 
        Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 16:35
        Subject: [TMIC] Chiropractic treatment

        Hey group!

        I don't usually ask about opinions dealing with myself, but more often 
about concerns of other folks, but this time it's about me. Has anyone in our 
group ever used chiropractic treatment after TM?  I have had TM for 10 years 
and are able to walk either unaided or with a cane or walker depending on the 
circumstances.  Over the last few years, because of my gait issues, and the way 
I "waddle", I have developed hip pain on a daily basis.  I have gotten approval 
from my neuro to see a chiropractor but there is still that little nagging 
voice in my head that tells me not to mess with my spine.  I'd appreciate any 
thoughts you have on this.  Thanks folks!

        Sue

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