Have you got some key bindings that do copy-mode -e and some that just
do plain copy-mode?



On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 01:17:37PM +1100, Cam Hutchison wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> Sorry for the delay in responding - life got in the way...
> 
> Stephen Hicks wrote:
> > In my mind, those two models are not mutually exclusive.  When I use the
> > mouse wheel to initiate a scrollback, I do tend to be in the second model,
> > but on the keyboard, how I enter copy mode is more related to whether the
> > thing I'm looking for is on the screen or not, in addition to whether I'm
> > searching, scrolling, or copying.
> 
> No, not mutually exclusive but when nicm said to also remove the -e
> option, I didn't see how your proposed changes would allow me to retain
> the mode I ues.
> 
> > My setting looks roughly like this:
> >
> > bind [ copy-mode
> > bind -n S-PgUp copy-mode -u
> > bind -T copy-mode PgUp send-keys -X page-up
> > bind -T copy-mode S-PgUp send-keys -X page-up
> > bind -T copy-mode PgDn send-keys -X page-down
> > bind -T copy-mode S-PgDn send-keys -X page-down-maybe-cancel
> 
> I wonder if a simpler way would be to define two new copy mode commands,
> autoexit-on and autoexit-off. It's not quite ideal as two commands, as
> it smells more like an option but there are no pane options or copy mode
> options.
> 
> With these two commands, you could replace 'copy-mode -e' with
> 'copy-mode; send-keys -X autoexit-on' and you could replace your
> bindings with a similar sequence that sends autoexit-off then page-down,
> or autoexit-on then page-down, etc.
> 
> That is, give control of the basic components needed to compose the
> higher-level behaviour.
> 
> I'd be happy with getting rid of copy-mode -e with something like this
> 
> If I seem a little defensive of copy-mode -e its because I added it :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Cam
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Cam Hutchison <c...@camh.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > On 26 October 2017 at 05:39, Stephen Hicks <stephenhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I appreciate the patch that went in a while back to add "copy-mode -e",
> > > > allowing to automatically exit copy-mode when reaching the bottom of the
> > > > buffer.  But I find that this functionality is a bit of "spooky action
> > > at a
> > > > distance": the decision to exit depends not on the input the caused the
> > > > scroll-down, but instead of the input that initially scrolled up.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure I understand your use case or your issue with the current
> > > behaviour. Is it just the "spooky action at a distance" that you object 
> > > to?
> > >
> > > The current behaviour is intended to model two different ways that copy
> > > mode can be used:
> > >
> > > 1) The normal mode where you are copying data out of the scrollback
> > > buffer, searching through it, or some other explicit action. This mode
> > > requires you to take an equally explicit action to exit.
> > >
> > > 2) Scrollback mode, where you are just scrolling back through the
> > > terminal history. In this mode, you enter typically with just a PageUp
> > > or ScrollUp event, not a binding that is explicitly copy-mode. This
> > > way, exiting mirrors your entry - when you scroll back to where you
> > > started, you're no longer in copy mode.
> > >
> > > I don't understand the "spooky action at a distance" (I get that how you
> > > enter the mode defines how you can exit the mode, but that's all related
> > > and not spooky unrelated stuff, or at a distance).
> > >
> > > I can't see how your approach allows the distinction between these two
> > > use cases to be retained. Perhaps using separate key tables, but that
> > > feels like a lot of extra configuration.
> > >
> > > Can you explain why you want to change this?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I've put together a small patch to allow opting into the auto-exit
> > > behavior
> > > > on scroll-down commands instead.  Currently I've overloaded the
> > > send-keys -R
> > > > argument (which seems somewhat appropriate given that exiting copy-mode
> > > is a
> > > > sort of "reset"), but I'd also be happy to find a different way to pass
> > > the
> > > > option (either adding an additional argument to send-keys, or adding
> > > > scroll-down, etc, to the 1-arg branch so that you'd write "send-keys -X
> > > > scroll-down -e", though in that case I'm not sure what to do if the
> > > argument
> > > > is anything *other* than -e - currently it silently does nothing if a
> > > > command has the wrong (number of) arguments, which isn't great.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know how to proceed so that this functionality can be
> > > added.
> > > > Or if you'd rather continue on a GitHub pull request, that would be
> > > great as
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > steve
> > > >
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