Yes, I have Prefix-[ and Prefix-^[ set to copy-mode, and
MouseDrag1Pane, WheelUpPane and "-T root PPage" using copy-mode -e.

On 29 October 2017 at 19:34, Nicholas Marriott
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Have you got some key bindings that do copy-mode -e and some that just
> do plain copy-mode?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 01:17:37PM +1100, Cam Hutchison wrote:
>> Stephen,
>>
>> Sorry for the delay in responding - life got in the way...
>>
>> Stephen Hicks wrote:
>> > In my mind, those two models are not mutually exclusive.  When I use the
>> > mouse wheel to initiate a scrollback, I do tend to be in the second model,
>> > but on the keyboard, how I enter copy mode is more related to whether the
>> > thing I'm looking for is on the screen or not, in addition to whether I'm
>> > searching, scrolling, or copying.
>>
>> No, not mutually exclusive but when nicm said to also remove the -e
>> option, I didn't see how your proposed changes would allow me to retain
>> the mode I ues.
>>
>> > My setting looks roughly like this:
>> >
>> > bind [ copy-mode
>> > bind -n S-PgUp copy-mode -u
>> > bind -T copy-mode PgUp send-keys -X page-up
>> > bind -T copy-mode S-PgUp send-keys -X page-up
>> > bind -T copy-mode PgDn send-keys -X page-down
>> > bind -T copy-mode S-PgDn send-keys -X page-down-maybe-cancel
>>
>> I wonder if a simpler way would be to define two new copy mode commands,
>> autoexit-on and autoexit-off. It's not quite ideal as two commands, as
>> it smells more like an option but there are no pane options or copy mode
>> options.
>>
>> With these two commands, you could replace 'copy-mode -e' with
>> 'copy-mode; send-keys -X autoexit-on' and you could replace your
>> bindings with a similar sequence that sends autoexit-off then page-down,
>> or autoexit-on then page-down, etc.
>>
>> That is, give control of the basic components needed to compose the
>> higher-level behaviour.
>>
>> I'd be happy with getting rid of copy-mode -e with something like this
>>
>> If I seem a little defensive of copy-mode -e its because I added it :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cam
>>
>> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Cam Hutchison <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 26 October 2017 at 05:39, Stephen Hicks <[email protected]> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > I appreciate the patch that went in a while back to add "copy-mode -e",
>> > > > allowing to automatically exit copy-mode when reaching the bottom of 
>> > > > the
>> > > > buffer.  But I find that this functionality is a bit of "spooky action
>> > > at a
>> > > > distance": the decision to exit depends not on the input the caused the
>> > > > scroll-down, but instead of the input that initially scrolled up.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure I understand your use case or your issue with the current
>> > > behaviour. Is it just the "spooky action at a distance" that you object 
>> > > to?
>> > >
>> > > The current behaviour is intended to model two different ways that copy
>> > > mode can be used:
>> > >
>> > > 1) The normal mode where you are copying data out of the scrollback
>> > > buffer, searching through it, or some other explicit action. This mode
>> > > requires you to take an equally explicit action to exit.
>> > >
>> > > 2) Scrollback mode, where you are just scrolling back through the
>> > > terminal history. In this mode, you enter typically with just a PageUp
>> > > or ScrollUp event, not a binding that is explicitly copy-mode. This
>> > > way, exiting mirrors your entry - when you scroll back to where you
>> > > started, you're no longer in copy mode.
>> > >
>> > > I don't understand the "spooky action at a distance" (I get that how you
>> > > enter the mode defines how you can exit the mode, but that's all related
>> > > and not spooky unrelated stuff, or at a distance).
>> > >
>> > > I can't see how your approach allows the distinction between these two
>> > > use cases to be retained. Perhaps using separate key tables, but that
>> > > feels like a lot of extra configuration.
>> > >
>> > > Can you explain why you want to change this?
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I've put together a small patch to allow opting into the auto-exit
>> > > behavior
>> > > > on scroll-down commands instead.  Currently I've overloaded the
>> > > send-keys -R
>> > > > argument (which seems somewhat appropriate given that exiting copy-mode
>> > > is a
>> > > > sort of "reset"), but I'd also be happy to find a different way to pass
>> > > the
>> > > > option (either adding an additional argument to send-keys, or adding
>> > > > scroll-down, etc, to the 1-arg branch so that you'd write "send-keys -X
>> > > > scroll-down -e", though in that case I'm not sure what to do if the
>> > > argument
>> > > > is anything *other* than -e - currently it silently does nothing if a
>> > > > command has the wrong (number of) arguments, which isn't great.
>> > > >
>> > > > Please let me know how to proceed so that this functionality can be
>> > > added.
>> > > > Or if you'd rather continue on a GitHub pull request, that would be
>> > > great as
>> > > > well.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > > steve
>> > > >
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