On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:26:33PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: > On 05/17/2011 10:21 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 09:16:16PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: > >>On 05/17/2011 06:10 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >>> > >>>I came, over the years, to rely very much on screen's > >>>backscroll behaviour[1], so certain aspects of tmux's behaviour > >>>have surprised me, and I'm wondering if they can be changed. > >>> > >>>1. When I quit "less", it goes away. I'm used to the output > >>>of less staying in the shell window/the terminal backscroll. I > >>>really prefer it that way. Is that fixable? > >>> > >>>2. When I launch vim or less, it ... this is hard to describe > >>>... it covers the whole screen's worth of stuff. So, let's > >>>pretend my terminal is 2 lines and the backscroll is 5 lines; > >>>current status of backscroll is: > >> > >>I think you may find both problems solved if you turn off the > >>alternate-screen window option. Hope that helps. > > > >#1 is much better that way; yay! > > > >#2 is much worse; instead of overlaying the current terminal data > >in a way that comes back when I exit or ctrl-z, it replaces it > >permanently/unrecoverably. > > "Replaces"? No, it'll scroll it off, I'd think. Which is what you > said you wanted - all the backscroll intact.
No, that is absolutely not what happens. If I have: 111111111111 222222222222 333333333333 444444444444 555555555555 and I run my two-line vim, I get: 111111111111 222222222222 333333333333 XXXXXXXXXXXX YYYYYYYYYYYY and when I exit vim I have in backscroll I have: 111111111111 222222222222 333333333333 XXXXXXXXXXXX YYYYYYYYYYYY The lines that were there when I launched vim are gone. I *just* tested this in tmux. I can probably arrange a screencast if you like, or at least screenshots. > You can't have it both ways, either in screen or in tmux: either > you enable the alternate screen buffer, in which case the previous > contents are not visible when you switch to it (in either less or > vim), but are available when you quit, or you don't, and exiting > leaves the messy remains of the application there (but the > previous contents are usually available in the backscroll). I very much want the messy remains and the previous contents, as I have been used to. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ What Every C/C++ and Fortran developer Should Know! Read this article and learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help Windows* and Linux* C/C++ and Fortran developers boost performance applications - including clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay _______________________________________________ tmux-users mailing list tmux-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tmux-users
