yeh just did, i don't follow what the 2nd problem is, can you send a
screenshot?

note the history will only ever include what less actually scrolled into
it, even with alternate-screen off. if less redraws by overwriting or
otherwise does not scroll the screen, the history won't be changed



On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:39:53AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> Nope; see rest of thread.
> 
> -Robin
> 
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 08:34:23AM +0100, Nicholas Marriott wrote:
> > Turn off the alternate-screen option and it should change both of these.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 06:10:58PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > 
> > > I came, over the years, to rely very much on screen's backscroll
> > > behaviour[1], so certain aspects of tmux's behaviour have surprised
> > > me, and I'm wondering if they can be changed.
> > > 
> > > 1.  When I quit "less", it goes away.  I'm used to the output of
> > > less staying in the shell window/the terminal backscroll.  I really
> > > prefer it that way.  Is that fixable?
> > > 
> > > 2.  When I launch vim or less, it ... this is hard to describe ...
> > > it covers the whole screen's worth of stuff.  So, let's pretend my
> > > terminal is 2 lines and the backscroll is 5 lines; current status of
> > > backscroll is:
> > > 
> > > 11111111111111111111
> > > 22222222222222222222
> > > 33333333333333333333
> > > 44444444444444444444
> > > 55555555555555555555
> > > 
> > > I then "less" a file of X and Y chars:
> > > 
> > > 11111111111111111111
> > > 22222222222222222222
> > > 33333333333333333333
> > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> > > YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
> > > 
> > > This means that the 4 and 5 lines (which, remember, is an entire
> > > terminal-height's worth of stuff) are unavailable to the backscroll
> > > system; it is very common for me to launch vim and then use screen's
> > > backscroll to grab the last bit of stuff I saw, to paste in, but I
> > > can't do that if it's not there because the vim window "covered" it.
> > > Ctrl-z brings it all back, which is also jarring.
> > > 
> > > #1 is much more annoying than #2, but I suspect they derive from the
> > > same terminal feature or whatever.
> > > 
> > > -Robin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [1]: I'm sorry that I'm comparing tmux to screen all the time; no
> > > offense is intended, it's just the only comparitor I have.  :)  tmux
> > > is fantastic in its own right.
> > > 
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