Hello Patrick,
I do understand your concern about this 5.0 issue. Normally an application written for 1.4 should run on 5.0. Maybe for some minor incompatibilities. The fact that the copy/paste function doesn't work on windows boxes should also be a minor problem as it's just a popup menu that gets used.
However your suggestion of starting a complete new project/source tree just for the sake of having a version that is fully windows-compatible with the latest JDK is a bad idea I think. You'll soon get version incompats etc. You are right however that developing for multi-platform must be managed. But possible! The easiest way would be to separate OS specific stuff in seperate classes and deploy them differently for different OSs. That would be the easiest way!
Installers are also possible. A simple solution would already be in using JavaWebStart which allows to generate an MSI package for windows. Otherwise some installer product could be used.
Wim Van Leuven.
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Hi Kenneth,
Related to the Selection Bug on 1.5.0
> Yes and not sure I can fix this for the 1.5.
> It will have to wait.
If you tell me where to look i can give it a try.
But anyway, beside of the fact there are so many
negative reactions on the 1.5.0 part, i again ask
to some programmers to help me to get it stable
for 1.5.0 and release a new 1.5.0 compiled version
on sourceforge for the ppl that DO want to be
up-to-date and use the very last JDK or JRE.
I will manage this release if you want to, but
i keep saying there SHOULD be a 1.5.0 compatible
stable version, beside the fact you are up-to-date
or not. I simply do not like to freeze because of
OLD JDK or JRE (or even J2EE) versions. Or otherwise
a second separate windows-version always compiled
with the very last JDK should be released. In the
past we already used some tricks to make the puppy
compatible with the old 1.3 so why should we not
be able to do the same for 1.5.0 ???
I really don't care about the linux and/or mac
versions, but here at Stafa (and a lot of other
companies) we DO use the very last java version (and
the very last windows), so it's never wrong to have
a windows-version that runs perfect on the very last
JDK. Or maybe i should start a new project on
java.net or even on the BerliOS website (which is
almost the same as sourceforge) and start a windows
version (compiled with the very last STABLE JDK) there.
I was thinking about a name like JTN5250W so that it
is clear that this version is java based for Windows.
Let me know what you think.
Oh and by the way, before you guys are staring a new
windows-linux-mac flame-war... I appreciate that some
ppl swear by their linux or mac-box, but for the most
ppl mac or linux are not interesting, so i hope you
understand why i should like to have a windows-version
of this great java-project, so we can clean up a lot
of old code (the 1.3 compat part and the specially for
mac-and-linux-parts). It's just my opinion.
I simply still don't believe in the compile once run
everywhere fable. And be honest, we've seen this crap
so many times... fix something for windows, and break
linux, or fix something for linux and break the mac
and vice versa, i simply get tired of that.
We still can be one big happy family together, but have
separate projects for separate os'es to keep the code
cleaner and faster, and on a separate mailing-list we
could discus the changes (read enhancements) and add
them to every project separate with minimal changes,
instead of coding a bunch of code to make it compat
with them all. How about that ?
Another advantage of this should be that we can write
an installer in C# or VB so that new users can just
run the installer instead of installing the project
manually, or even a java version of an installer, but
it will be a less more work to get it done, cause you
do not have to worry about how mac or linux are doing
it because the version is gonna to be installed on
windows anyway. Or even a simple java-script should
work to get tn5250j installed on a windows box, or
a vbs-file (Visual Basic Script) to get it done.
Well that was it for now, i'm serious how many
negative reactions i will get this time, or that it
will be as previous times where my arguments will
simply be completely ignored, and nobody reacts.
Time will tell, make my day :-)
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best Regards,
Patrick Bielen
System-Administrator Stafa Holland BV
Microsoft Certified Professional
Sun Certified Java Programmer
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