on 10/27/2000 4:47 PM, "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Re: the separate projects... I tend to believe things happen for a reason,
> even misunderstandings, and maybe the field of open source java is better
> for it, I mean not been integrated and all. I mean I am happy with the fact
> that several projects are thriving and growing. We are happily integrating
> your code, and others people code. The field of open source java will
> dominate commercial players through combinatorial mutation and wild
> integration, not consolidation, not yet not at this point at least. So let
> n-n combinatorials play its part :)). We believe, at a deeper level, that
> the inherent complexity of j2ee is outgrowing commercial settings but is
> still showing signs of scaling in the open source integration world. At any
> rate we hope to continue doing good work with you and in good conditions.
>
> Re: the licenses. I read many of the arguments regarding the licenses.
> There seems to be much misinterpretation of what the GPL requires. Sun and
> SAP are going with the GPL for some things (staroffice, SAP-DB), and MPL/APL
> for some others (netbeans)...
True. Not everything needs to be APL. In fact, I think things like the Linux
kernel really should be under a GPL license because it provides enough of a
base that people can depend on it being always available as OSS.
> There doesn't need to be a unique license, and
> it seems to me the APL folks are on a religious endeavour these days (used
> to be the case with GPL, funny how things work out :).
It will always be about religion because we have different views on how
source code should be made available and used by people. For example, right
now, you choose the GPL because you feel that you should be able to get the
changes back, but at the same time, you have a problem with the GPL being
viral so you give exceptions for people to use JBoss. Instead, what you
should do is probably be using the MPL license which will solve your needs
without having to constantly grant exceptions to people.
It is funny to me how you say that you are integrating our code which I
think is great, but the real issue is that we can't integrate YOUR code
because you choose to use the GPL license.
Sigh.
-jon
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