I'm also -1 on Avalon - same reasons as Remy, plus more ( 
the IoC madness/obsession, the over-design, ever-changing interfaces, 
logkit, etc.)

Some components are good, and the move to commons is great - but
I'm strongly -1 on using the framework.

Costin 


On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Remy Maucherat wrote:

> For all the things it gives you, Avalon is a framework, and makes you 
> feel like it. It imposes contracts between components / patterns, 
> packaging, etc. All things which aren't compatible with 5.0. And more 
> importantly, the API changes often, to the extent that all the projects 
> which use Avalon work off a specific snapshot, and don't upgrade too often.
> 
> Also, most of the utility provided by Avalon are available from the 
> commons without any string attached, and/or are of a better quality.
> 
> There has been plenty of discussion on that with Paul, and during the 
> whole commons-logging incident, at which point I thought it would be 
> best if I didn't have anything to do with Avalon.
> 
> OTOH, we could have optional Avalon wrappers again, as long as there is 
> someone to write them *and* maintain them when the API changes. So +0.1 
> to work nice with Avalon, but -1 for basing the architecture on Avalon.
> 
> Remy
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