[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm also -1 on Avalon - same reasons as Remy, plus more ( 
> the IoC madness/obsession,

? madness?

It's a pattern, would you say that someone has a "Factory" obsession?

> the over-design,

Please explain.

> ever-changing interfaces, 

The Avalon 4 interfaces are stable.
They are not everchanging.

> logkit, etc.)

?
What does logkit have to do with framework?

> Some components are good, and the move to commons is great - but
> I'm strongly -1 on using the framework.

Please give me some more insight.
What you say seems to me like: Avalon is too good to be of any use.
If it were a bit more "hacky" I would use it.

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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