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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |




------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-09-07 21:29 -------
After we finish clarifying who's is bigger (and mine is best case average), we
could return to the bug.

1. The bug isn't invalid, so I reopen it. You can set it to WONTFIX, but not to
INVALID.

2. Applications working well with tomcat 4, resin or probably any other servlet
container do not work with tomcat 5.0.x or tomcat 5.5.x. Thus tomcat 5 seems to
be not compatible to the servlet spec (or be the only one compatible), if not in
the language of the specification itself, but in the intension of it. So tomcat
5 can be considered BROKEN.

3. The bug applies to tomcat 5.5.x as well, because 
"... added back synchrnozation on write operations to the map in the 5.5
branch... " doesn't fix anything, since the read operation are the problem and
MUST be synchronized. 

4. The effort to provide a workaround for this problem is enormous compared to
the effort to fix the bug. Each and every framework around there now MUST
provide two versions, the normal version and the tomcat 5 compatible version.
You can't use struts, tapestry, jstl, actually NOTHING existing with tomcat 5.

5. The idea of removing synchronization to gain performance is absurd.
Who needs the performance? People like us, who have 2000-3000 concurrent users
on each webserver. But people who have 2000-3000 concurrent users, have also
many concurrent requests, even from the same user, so instead of gaining
performance we are gaining CRASHES. This bug killed 8 (!!!) webservers 
yesterday. 

6. Consider the flurry in the tomcat users community, if the above points + your
 refusal to provide a three LOCs fix gonna make tomcat 5 UNUSEABLE.

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