Yeah, that is mostly correct.  There are also places where the spec is
vague or doesn't specify behavior, and different application servers
implement things differently.

There are not a whole lot of spec or operation changes from the 4.0.x
series that would completely break you.  Offhand I can think of one
though:  The invoker servlet.  It allows you to fire up a servlet
directly by class name without defining it in your web.xml.  Relying on
that is dangerous and does lead to non-portable applications.  As of
Tomcat 4.1.12, the invoker was disabled by default.  But, since you are
running a JSP, there is no guarantee that there is a servlet in the mix
(unless the JSP is doing a forward to a servlet or something).

I think our Remedy team is using the ServletExec, so I do not have any
examples myself of how to get it working on Tomcat.  And, the full
exception does not seem to be of much help.

Maybe set debug="99" in the context definition and in all places where
debug="0" in server.xml.  That might yield a better error message. 
(Maybe not though).

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/03 2:48:29 AM >>>
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the response.
I already have a call in with Remedy and postings on the ARSLIST (no
value
from either so far). The ARSList does not have one posting that states
the
Midtier can be made to work with Tomcat (even though the doc states it
can).
Remedy Midtier comes with ServletExec as the default container - but I
am
loathe to swap Tomcat out as we already use it for other servlets. The
support for 5.1.2 on Tomcat is there. Plus we are already running
Remedy
ARWEB 4.1.1 using Tomcat.

I am new to Java, Tomcat and Servlets but have been reading around,
Murachs
Servlets and Wrox - Professional Apache Tomcat book. If a webapp is
built so
it doesn't rely on container specific extensions then it should be
portable
across containers right?

Also what might be an obstacle to a webapp running on Tomcat 4.0.x but
not
on 4.1.x. I have read that these versions support different servlet
specifications but aren't they backwardly compatible? 


On attempting to use Coyote HTTP Connector straight to Tomcat via
http://enmc-mic:4321/arsys/apps/shared/config/config.jsp 

I get:-

type Exception report

message

description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented
it
from fulfilling this request.

exception

org.apache.jasper.JasperException
        at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:2
54)
        at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:295)
        at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:241)
        at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Application
FilterChain.java:247)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterCh
ain.java:193)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.ja
va:256)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.ja
va:191)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(StandardContext.java:2417)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:180
)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.invoke(ErrorDispatcherValve.
java:171)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
        at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:172
)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
        at
org.apache.catalina.valves.RequestDumperValve.invoke(RequestDumperValve.java
:221)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java
:174)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:193)
        at
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:781)
        at
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConne
ction(Http11Protocol.java:549)
        at
org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:589)
        at
org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.jav
a:666)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

root cause

javax.servlet.ServletException
        at
org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl.handlePageException(PageContextImp
l.java:536)
        at org.apache.jsp.config_jsp._jspService(config_jsp.java:357)
        at
org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:137)
        at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
        at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:2
10)
        at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:295)
        at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:241)
        at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Application
FilterChain.java:247)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterCh
ain.java:193)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.ja
va:256)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.ja
va:191)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(StandardContext.java:2417)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:180
)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.invoke(ErrorDispatcherValve.
java:171)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
        at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:172
)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
        at
org.apache.catalina.valves.RequestDumperValve.invoke(RequestDumperValve.java
:221)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java
:174)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
        at
org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:193)
        at
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:781)
        at
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConne
ction(Http11Protocol.java:549)
        at
org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:589)
        at
org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Tulley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 November 2003 23:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1.29 and Remedy 5.1.2 MidTier


Our Remedy team gave me a URL for the remedy listserver:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Also, I'd check their web / support site.  I cannot imagine that this
is not
a solved problem and that you would find good support there to get
this
running.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/03 3:21:46 PM >>>
Here's hoping someone out there has tried to install the Remedy
MidTier
5.1.2 with Tomcat 4.1.29.

I cant get it to work. :-)

I have Tomcat working no problem - running examples and other servlets.
I
have Apache working into Tomcat using JK no problem running servlets
and
static. Remedy MidTier doesn't want to play when running config.jsp
from
Tomcat I get :-

javax.servlet.ServletException
        at
org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl.handlePageException(PageContextImp
l.java:536)
        at org.apache.jsp.config_jsp._jspService(config_jsp.java:357)
        at
org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:137)
        at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)

Any help gratefully appreciated.

Simon

Simon Taylor
Managed Services Technology Consultant
Nortel Networks
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e -  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Novell, Inc., The Leading Provider of Net Business Solutions
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