Am I spamming if I say thanks to all of you for your help?  I changed
the following line in server.xml and now both instances run:

<!-- <Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN" debug="0"> -->
<Server port="8007" shutdown="SHUTDOWN" debug="0">

I hope I wasn't imposing by asking all these naive questions.....for me
this is a great way to learn.

Like you said, I actually have to read the message (although I didn't
know that "create[8005]" was referring to a port).  

I wonder if there's a way to filter out some of all the stuff that is
outputted on startup so one can zero in more easily on the error? 

And why not output  "attempting to create port 8005" instead of
"create[8005]"? 

But those are standard quibbles about cryptic error messages.....thanks
again for your help.

Luke





>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/2004 1:09:55 PM >>>
yes, and if you actually read the message

StandardServer.await: create[8005]: java.net.BindException: Address
already in u
se: JVM_Bind
java.net.BindException: Address already in use: JVM_Bind


look for 8005 in your server.xml and you will find out that this is
the
shutdown port.

Filip

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke FERNANDEZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: newbie question


Ok. When I use "catalina.bat run" instead of "startup" the window
stays
open but the second instance (on port 80) still isnt serving pages.
I've included the screen output that happens after running
"catalina.bat
run".  Looks like its saying something about "address already in use":

C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\bin>catalina.bat run
Using CATALINA_BASE:   C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28
Using CATALINA_HOME:   C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\temp
Using JAVA_HOME:       C:\j2sdk1.4.2_05
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:57 PM org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol init
INFO: Initializing Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-80
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:57 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina load
INFO: Initialization processed in 1953 ms
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:57 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService
start
INFO: Starting service Catalina
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:57 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine start
INFO: Starting Servlet Engine: Apache Tomcat/5.0.28
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:57 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost start
INFO: XML validation disabled
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:57 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost
getDeployer
INFO: Create Host deployer for direct deployment ( non-jmx )
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:57 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Processing Context configuration file URL
file:C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.
0.28\conf\Catalina\localhost\admin.xml
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:59 PM
org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResources <init>
INFO: Initializing, config='org.apache.struts.util.LocalStrings',
returnNull=tru
e
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:59 PM
org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResources <init>
INFO: Initializing, config='org.apache.struts.action.ActionResources',
returnNul
l=true
Oct 28, 2004 12:58:59 PM
org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResources <init>
INFO: Initializing,
config='org.apache.webapp.admin.ApplicationResources', retur
nNull=true
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:02 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Processing Context configuration file URL
file:C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.
0.28\conf\Catalina\localhost\balancer.xml
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:02 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Processing Context configuration file URL
file:C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.
0.28\conf\Catalina\localhost\manager.xml
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:02 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Installing web application at context path /jsp-examples from
URL
file:C:\
tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\jsp-examples
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:03 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Installing web application at context path /Login from URL
file:C:\tomcat\
jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\Login
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:04 PM
org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResources <init>
INFO: Initializing, config='org.apache.struts.util.LocalStrings',
returnNull=tru
e
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:04 PM
org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResources <init>
INFO: Initializing, config='org.apache.struts.action.ActionResources',
returnNul
l=true
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:04 PM
org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResources <init>
INFO: Initializing, config='ApplicationResources', returnNull=true
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:04 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Installing web application at context path  from URL
file:C:\tomcat\jakart
a-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\ROOT
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:04 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Installing web application at context path /servlets-examples
from URL fil
e:C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\servlets-examples
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:05 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Installing web application at context path /tomcat-docs from URL
file:C:\t
omcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\tomcat-docs
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:05 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Installing web application at context path /TomProj from URL
file:C:\tomca
t\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\TomProj
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:06 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer
install
INFO: Installing web application at context path /webdav from URL
file:C:\tomcat
\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\webdav
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:07 PM org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol start
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-80
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:07 PM org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init
INFO: Port busy 8009 java.net.BindException: Address already in use:
JVM_Bind
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:07 PM org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init
INFO: JK2: ajp13 listening on /0.0.0.0:8010
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:07 PM org.apache.jk.server.JkMain start
INFO: Jk running ID=1 time=16/172
config=C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\conf\j
k2.properties
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:07 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
INFO: Server startup in 10437 ms
StandardServer.await: create[8005]: java.net.BindException: Address
already in u
se: JVM_Bind
java.net.BindException: Address already in use: JVM_Bind
        at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketBind(Native Method)
        at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.bind(PlainSocketImpl.java:331)
        at java.net.ServerSocket.bind(ServerSocket.java:318)
        at java.net.ServerSocket.<init>(ServerSocket.java:185)
        at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.await(StandardServer.java:496
)
        at
org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.await(Catalina.java:619)
        at
org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:579)
        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
        at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
java:39)
        at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAcces
sorImpl.java:25)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
        at
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.start(Bootstrap.java:287)
        at
org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:425)
Oct 28, 2004 12:59:07 PM org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol pause
INFO: Pausing Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-80

C:\tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\bin>

Any ideas?

Luke


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/2004 12:28:46 PM >>>
you have conflict in ports, both tomcats can not run on the same port
at the
same time.
instead of calling start.bat, call "catalina.bat run" to have the
windows
stay the same and not shutdown on you

FIlip

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke FERNANDEZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: newbie question


Can you run multiple instances of Tomcat? I tried this but I ran into
problems.

I'm running Sakai (the open source Learning Management System) which
installs its own Tomcat engine.  When I try to start up my own
non-Sakai
Tomcat instance from the command line (which resides in a completely
separate jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28 folder) a new DOS window pops up and it
seems like it goes through the entire deployment in the conventional
manner.  But instead of staying open, that second DOS window
eventually
closes.  And then when I try to request pages against the second
Tomcat
instance I don't get anything back in the browser.  The Sakai instance
still serves pages correctly.

However, if the Sakai Tomcat server is turned off I can turn on my
other instance and serve pages from it.  Is there a way to make both
Tomcat engines run simultaneously without conflict?

Cheers,

Luke Fernandez



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/2004 11:11:05 AM >>>
Or you could run multiple instances of Tomcat



On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 12:23, Shapira, Yoav wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes: define separate Engines or Services for the two apps in your
> server.xml, and put each connector only in the Service where you
want
> it.
>
> Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com 
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Luke FERNANDEZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:16 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >Subject: newbie question
> >
> >Is there an easy way to specify that one of the apps in the webapps
> >folder be served off one port (e.g. 80) whereas another app should
be
> >served off another port (8080)?
> >
> >Thanks for your help,
> >
> >Luke Fernandez
> >Weber State University
> >
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