On Wed, 16 May 2001, Yang,Chun wrote:

> The problem with my mailer (MS Outlook) is that I don't see a
> return-path line.

I'll refrain from any smart-ass MS bashing :-).

But are you sure that header is nowhere to be found?  And that the
info isn't contained somewhere else, like in another header?  Is MS
Outlook allowed to do that? :-)


> One odd thing is that unsubscribe doesn't seem to work EVEN if one
> has sent the unsubscribe request via his/her subscribing address. I
> know for sure it has failed on me. I am positive about my
> subscribing address being correct as I saved the instructions of
> subscribing/unsubscribing sent by the mailing list when I initially
> signed up. And I have tried to unsubscribe at least twice and both
> times I failed.

Well, I won't tell you that this can't happen, because I suspect the
mechanism isn't foolproof, and that problems arise.  On the other
hand, I'd ask if you are really sure about that address you are
subscribed from.  Because it isn't always easy to tell what address
that is, the mailer/system can sometimes play tricks with it.  For
example, on my system, depending on how I send mail, it can show at
least three different return addresses.  (FWIW, on this message, it
looks like your address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You might try
sending yourself a test message to see what it looks like.)

Anyway, if this stuff isn't applicable to you, I don't have any other
suggestions.  Sorry :-).


> The only solution I could come up with is having all messages from
> "tomcat user", "tomcat user list" etc... filtered into the delete
> folder... :-) Apparently my setup didn't undergo enough permutations
> of "tomcat" and "user" such that the attached message wasn't
> filtered out... :-)

No idea what's going on with that.  Perhaps MS Outlook is teasing you :-).


>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Milt Epstein [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent:   Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:18 PM
>       To:     Tomcat User Mailing List
>       Subject:        ***** URGENT: UNSUBSCRIBING FROM THE TOMCAT-USER
> LIST *****
>
>
>       Obviously a lot of people are having trouble unsubscribing from this
>       list.  Most likely these people have tried the simple/direct way of
>       unsubscribing -- sending email to
>
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>       -- without success.  That's because that way only works if you send
>       the unsubscribe request from the address you are subscribed from.
> But
>       many people receive/send their email from a different address than
> the
>       one they originally subscribed from.
>
>       Some people (including me and others) have posted instructions on
> how
>       to unsubscribe when faced with this situation.  But it's not clear
>       that the right people are seeing these messages (I guess you can't
>       blame them too much, because they're probably not reading the
> messages
>       too closely, because the whole point is they want to get off this
>       list).  But I'm going to make another attempt to post these
>       instructions in the hope that it will help someone.  I'll try to
> make
>       the subject line such that even those people that are deleting
>       everything from the list will stop and notice it (for the people
> that
>       want to stay on the list, sorry about that :-).
>
>       First of all, you need to find out what address tomcat-user thinks
>       you're subscribed from.  To do that, look at the headers of a
> message
>       from the list, and you'll see something like:
>
>       Return-Path:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>       The Return-Path header line includes the address tomcat-user thinks
>       you're subscribed from -- with the "@" changed to a "=" to avoid
>       having two "@"'s in the Return-Path.  In this example, that's
>       joe=domain.com, which translates to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>       Once you know that address, you can unsubscribe by sending email to
>
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>       Voila!
>
>       So, if you are having trouble unsubscribing, please give this a try.
>
>       Milt Epstein
>       Research Programmer
>       Software/Systems Development Group
>       Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
>       University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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