At 08:41 PM 24/09/01, you wrote:
>Hi, Jim,
>
>I am unclear about your question.  The Web can easily take care of this sort
>of thing.  Certain there is no trouble with a number of Java solutions to
>the job at hand.  I am not sure why you would think that Java could not do
>this.


Eh? I never said java couldn't do the task!!! I was asking if *Jeff* had 
considered using an applet!



>It is a relatively easy task.  It's just a matter of banging the
>solution out, really.  You must have an underlying problem that you are not
>articulating?
>
>If you are an administrator that does not know the limits of the technology,
>then the simple answer is that this is easy.


Really? A secure, fast loading applet that has (at last post) maybe 12-15 
tabs of data to enter? (Which I really don't like the sound of - I'm not 
surprised that Jeff's management want to maximise the use they're getting 
from their trained users, though perhaps with a better designed form in the 
first place... there's *no* excuse for 12-15 tabs ;)

I repeat: Secure, fast loading, reliable, easy to use (?) - this you call 
easy???



>Micael
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Cheesman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:22 AM
>Subject: Re: Limits of Web
>
>
> >At 04:59 PM 24/09/01, you wrote:
> >>I have a question regarding the limits of web applications.
> >>
> >>I sent out an e-mail requesting help for a problem with submitting
>multiple
> >>forms and the responses I am getting say I am nuts for trying to do such
> >>complicated application on the Web.
> >>
> >>My problem is that I work for a government agency that wants to take very
> >>complicated client server data entry and reporting applications (there are
> >>master/details that go three levels deep) and rewrite them for use on the
> >>web.
> >>
> >>In order to save money they want them to be similar enough to the
> >>client-server applications so that they will not have to retrain users.
>I
> >>am currently finishing up the first (and easiest) of these applications
>and
> >>have had not a few headaches and frustrations.
> >>
> >>My question is using technologies such as Java, Tomcat, JSP, and Tag
> >>Libraries, how realistic is it to expect to be able to develop complicated
> >>data entry forms with the same ease of use, precision, and stability as
> >>client server applications using such tools as Java Swing, PowerBuilder,
>VB
> >>or Oracle Developer?  Are there tools that I am missing that would make
> >>this easier or is the web just not able to handle such sophisticated apps?
> >>Am I setting myself up for disaster?
> >
> >
> >Just out of interest, what's to stop you using a Swing applet?
> >
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >                           *   Jim Cheesman   *
> >             Trabajo:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (34)(91) 724 9200 x 2360
> >                    I have my
> >doubts about disbelief.
> >
> >
> >


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                           *   Jim Cheesman   *
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turneth away wrath, but not
                   as effectively as superior 
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