In my hunch, they do not even have the proper Requirements so that they
do not even have a Right Architecture as a subsequent result. That's why
they are wondering and drifting unless their technical team is just exploring
and trying to create the pilot or poc system without the baseline architecture.
This is a common problem and has been practiced at many organizations
in many years. Especially in the large-scale, enterprise-level solution
development practice. More than likely, they will face the design problem
during the course of the development process and face the architectural
problem even they may luckily pass the acceptance test.
Speaking of "Easy of Use", "Reliability", "Fast Loading or Performance",
"Security", "ETC", they are related to the Customer Satisfaction, Modeling,
Architecturing, Building Right System Right, etc. I will tell you ONE THING
for sure. Those issues are never been easy unless you are building a lousy
dog house and it's ok and allowed to get rid of the dog if s/he does not like
the dog house. But I doubt that they can do it.
Just take a moment to read the history of TC4 or Catalina why they have
remodel the architecture. At least, the TC team learned after a period of
time albeit they learned in a hard way. But some learn in the harder way.
Pae
> At 08:41 PM 24/09/01, you wrote:
> >Hi, Jim,
> >
> >I am unclear about your question. The Web can easily take care of this sort
> >of thing. Certain there is no trouble with a number of Java solutions to
> >the job at hand. I am not sure why you would think that Java could not do
> >this.
>
>
> Eh? I never said java couldn't do the task!!! I was asking if *Jeff* had
> considered using an applet!
>
>
>
> >It is a relatively easy task. It's just a matter of banging the
> >solution out, really. You must have an underlying problem that you are not
> >articulating?
> >
> >If you are an administrator that does not know the limits of the technology,
> >then the simple answer is that this is easy.
>
>
> Really? A secure, fast loading applet that has (at last post) maybe 12-15
> tabs of data to enter? (Which I really don't like the sound of - I'm not
> surprised that Jeff's management want to maximise the use they're getting
> from their trained users, though perhaps with a better designed form in the
> first place... there's *no* excuse for 12-15 tabs ;)
>
> I repeat: Secure, fast loading, reliable, easy to use (?) - this you call
> easy???
>
>
>
> >Micael
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Cheesman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:22 AM
> >Subject: Re: Limits of Web
> >
> >
> > >At 04:59 PM 24/09/01, you wrote:
> > >>I have a question regarding the limits of web applications.
> > >>
> > >>I sent out an e-mail requesting help for a problem with submitting
> >multiple
> > >>forms and the responses I am getting say I am nuts for trying to do such
> > >>complicated application on the Web.
> > >>
> > >>My problem is that I work for a government agency that wants to take very
> > >>complicated client server data entry and reporting applications (there are
> > >>master/details that go three levels deep) and rewrite them for use on the
> > >>web.
> > >>
> > >>In order to save money they want them to be similar enough to the
> > >>client-server applications so that they will not have to retrain users.
> >I
> > >>am currently finishing up the first (and easiest) of these applications
> >and
> > >>have had not a few headaches and frustrations.
> > >>
> > >>My question is using technologies such as Java, Tomcat, JSP, and Tag
> > >>Libraries, how realistic is it to expect to be able to develop complicated
> > >>data entry forms with the same ease of use, precision, and stability as
> > >>client server applications using such tools as Java Swing, PowerBuilder,
> >VB
> > >>or Oracle Developer? Are there tools that I am missing that would make
> > >>this easier or is the web just not able to handle such sophisticated apps?
> > >>Am I setting myself up for disaster?
> > >
> > >
> > >Just out of interest, what's to stop you using a Swing applet?
> > >
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > > * Jim Cheesman *
> > > Trabajo:
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (34)(91) 724 9200 x 2360
> > > I have my
> > >doubts about disbelief.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
>
> * Jim Cheesman *
> Trabajo:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (34)(91) 724 9200 x 2360
> A kind word
> turneth away wrath, but not
> as effectively as superior
> firepower.
>
>
