Sounds like you have a good handle on things.  You'll be fine.  The best
thing is that you are asking for help and suggestions...I've worked with a
lot of people over the years who always insisted they knew exactly what to
do all the time and were too stubborn to ask when they had a question.  They
usually ended up getting burned or fired or both, eventually.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denise Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:18 PM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Na�ve question about root
> 
> 
> Alright then.  I get it now... 
> 
> John - Yes, the prompt is like the Windows log in prompt.  
> Also, yes, Apache
> and Tomcat both are started automatically when the system 
> boots, so as you,
> and Andrew have pointed out, I will not log in as you both 
> mention that I do
> not have to.  I absolutely did not know this.  And finally 
> yes, I am using
> SSH, NOT telnet and I do log in as myself (for the most 
> part).  I have been
> switching back and forth between root as needed, because I did really
> understand just what the "su" command did.  But I will set up 
> users and
> group as per your suggestions.
> 
> Matt - I will be using some servlets/JSP with my site that is 
> hosted on
> Apache.... And there is no development team, no system admins, no
> integrators... There is just poor little ol' me ;)
> 
> Thanks again for your help!!
> 
> Denise Mangano
> Help Desk Analyst
> Complus Data Innovations, Inc.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:46 PM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Na�ve question about root
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Denise Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:37 PM
> > To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> > Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Na�ve question about root
> > 
> > 
> > Wow, how do you know all this stuff? :)  I will certainly
> > have to pick up a
> > book on System Administration....
> 
> Self-taught.  Back in the day had a job much like yours (from 
> what you have
> said in the past), and was given the responsibility of a UNIX 
> server for a
> new project.  Had to learn as I went along.  That was about 
> 12 years ago.
> Systems administration is a career in and of itself, I know 
> sys-admins that
> have been doing it for 30-40 years.  It's definitely not the same as
> development, though there is some overlap.
> 
> > As far as what I meant by "logged in as root" - when I boot
> > my server it
> > prompts me for a user name and password.  I enter root and 
> > the password.
> > Then leave the box be and do my work as the user I created, from my
> > workstation.  So rather, instead of doing this, it is better 
> > to be entering
> > my created user account and password?
> 
> OK, I think I understand what you mean.  When you say 
> "prompts for username
> and password", is it a graphical prompt, Windows-ish?  Or 
> text-based? Either
> way, there is no need for you to login.  Linux boxes are 
> servers...that
> means when they boot up, there are any number of applications 
> that start up
> automatically and run as system services.  Things like DNS, sendmail,
> Apache, maybe FTP, etc.
> 
> So, once you see that prompt, you are good to go.  You can 
> walk away, there
> is no need to log in.  You can just go back to your 
> workstation and log in
> from there, hopefully using SSH (Secure Shell) and not 
> telnet.  Telnet is
> bad because everything, including passwords, are transmitted 
> in the clear.
> On a LAN you are probably OK, but if the server was across 
> the country in
> another state, using telnet would be a really bad idea 
> because anyone in
> between could intercept that traffic and grab your password.  
> SSH is your
> friend, always.
> 
> When you log in from your workstation, you want to log in as 
> you and do your
> work.  Switching to root should be something that you need to do only
> occasionally.
> 
> > 
> > Can a user belong to more than one group?  For example if 
> user denise 
> > belongs to group tomcat and was owner of all webapps, could denise 
> > belong to group apache as well so denise has rights to all apache 
> > files?
> 
> Yes, a user can belong to more than one group.  They will 
> have a primary
> group, and then can belong to any number of other groups.  
> For example, user
> bob and user alice belong to the group users, but bob also 
> belongs to tomcat
> and accounting, while alice belongs to group sales.
> 
> > Well, thanks...yet again!!  Looks like I am headed to the
> > bookstore tonight!
> > :)  (btw, going to close the office door tomorrow morning, 
> > get a large cup
> > of coffee - and sit down to tackle mod_jk again tomorrow)
> 
> No problem, glad to help.  I've had the privilege of learning 
> from some
> amazingly intelligent and wise people in the past, in my own 
> small way I
> just want to complete the circle at some level, even if I am 
> still learning
> as well.
> 
> Hopefully I will have a new HOWTO tonight, for the new 
> version of JK and
> Tomcat 4.1.17, so perhaps you won't have the problems you 
> have had in the
> past.
> 
> John
> 
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