On Thu Oct 14 1999 at 09:20, Tom Oehser wrote:
> Ok, but,
>
> (1) No-one but you has reported it,
Well, I'm definitely seeing it here.
And noone has denied the problem either.
I would very much like to see some feedback one way or the other from
others who try it on a rh6.1 installation.
> (2) I don't have the environment to do ***ANYTHING*** about it,
> including recreate it or make any guesses about it,
Ok, fair enough. But asking you to do that wasn't the purpose of my
message.
> (3) Your symptoms are STILL consistent with my other guesses, and I
Yes, I agree. I have no idea what's going on.
> STILL want you to do some work with things like "fdisk -l" and
> "e2fsck" to come up with some useful detail. You current guess
Nothing unusual that I can recall, but I'll doing this and let you
know.
> is both un-testable and contrary to my intuition and experience
> as to the likely causes of your problem.
Ok ok, hang on to your trousers :-)
> So, again, please run "fdisk -l" from tomsrtbt and send me the output,
> then try "e2fsck" from tomsrtbt, then we'll talk about using other tools
> to figure it out. Until then:
Ok...
> **************************************************************************
> * I recommend tomsrtbt users not use the "red had" (?sp) distribution, *
> * and stick to one of the main stream distributions such as SlackWare, *
> * DebIan, SuSE, ManDrake, etc., if tomsrtbt isn't enough. There is no *
> * need to shoot yourself in the foot by installing some commercially *
> * forked thing from someone who dreams up a package format like ".RPM" *
> * which required special binary formats and tools just to make life *
> * difficult and be proprietary. Tom recommends, in fact, that you skip *
> * ALL this stuff and just "Use the source, Luke". Join the ranks of the *
> * distribution-free! Also, ***Please, as noted in the FAQ, don't send *
> * me problems specific to "RedHad", I don't have it, I've never run it, *
> * I don't care about it, I don't support it, and the most I'll do for *
> * it is pass on SOLUTIONS submitted by users. Thanks. PS, I don't own *
> * any stock in RHAT or its competitors, this opinion is impartial. *
> **************************************************************************
That isn't at all a reasonable attitude.
Hey, what I'm saying is not a criticism of tomsrtbt, nor a criticism
of redhat. I'm just giving an observation of what I'm seeing. I'm
sure that there are quite a few others here who - like myself - like
tomsrtbt, but also use redhat as their base installation.
I happen to like redhat... it's a brilliant distribution. The new
RH61 is very, very nice to use. So is its rpm package manager (as it
has always been). I need to manage dozens, potentially hundreds, of
linux boxes, and rpm allows me to do some aspects of this very easily.
Mandrake and SuSe (and others, eg, TurboLinux) also use rpm for their
package management. It's nothing short of brilliant (ahhh... that is
once you get to know and understand how it works).
Different strokes for different folks. But we all have one thing in
common... we all use linux.
I don't think that any of this is specifically a problem "caused" by
redhat, but one related to the kernel and perhaps changes / upgrades
to the ext2fs and glibc libraries and perhaps to mount. If this is
the case, then what is now being seen (if verified) is therefore
inevitable.
RedHat can't be "blamed" for their early move to glibc 2.x -- it was
inevitable, and they happened to be the first to do it -- others
(apart from slugware) quickly followed. libc5 is broken and insecure
and no longer actively supported. You can't deny this Tom - it's
fact. But I agree that it's very suitable for using in a great
utility like tomsrtbt.
One thing's for sure, whatever is causing this problem definitely
needs to be confirmed, identified, and then solutions found.
> -Tom
>
> On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Tony Nugent wrote:
[ lots of stuff ]
Cheers
Tony
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