Merlissimo <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Toolserver is in fact hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation today, in our
>> Amsterdam data-center. [..] We also maintain the database replication
>> on our end which enables tools to function.

> I don't know all internal systems, but i think by
> maintaining you mean: grant access to mysql binlogs, traffic
> costs and sometimes creating a dump.

> Why can WMF not administrate the hole database replication
> servers for toolserver users in short-term if WMDE should
> not spend money on this anymore? Setting up new replication
> servers at production system is done quite often. Adding
> views for hiding private data and adding access control
> based on toolserver ldap should be possible. The rest of the
> toolserver infrastructure won't be touched by this change.
> [...]

Apparently, it is not that smooth for WMF admins
(http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.toolserver/3166):

| > one obvious solution would be to treat the Toolserver database servers
| > as part of WMF's domain so they can use their SOPs (*1) to maintain
| > them instead of manually coordinating with the Toolserver admins (or
| > not).

| I don't think that would be any easier.  Our database systems are
| completely different from theirs, so it would require all WMF admins to
| learn (and remember) a new procedure before they could change anything
| on their side.  Since they usually don't think to notify us of major
| changes in advance, I don't think they would be very happy with that.

Tim


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