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On May 1, 2013 8:49 PM, "Ryan Lane" <rl...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Tim Landscheidt 
> <t...@tim-landscheidt.de>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> at the office hour yesterday
>> (cf.
>> http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20130430.txt):
>>
>> | [...]
>> | <Coren> multichill: The long story short; replicating
>> |         databases is happening soon (Within the month)
>> |         Replicating multiple copies of commons and wikidata
>> |         isn't going to happen that way; it needs to be built
>> |         into application logic or using federated tables.
>> |         Almost /all/ of the problems the TS have had with
>> |         replication were caused by that redundancy and
>> |         trying to keep it synced.
>> | <multichill> Coren: So you're basically saying Toollabs is
>> |              useless for me
>> | <Platonides> {{ref needed}}
>> | <Coren> We're all more than happy to help you (and any other
>> |         maintainer) with adapting your tools to work in that
>> |         setup.
>> | <scfc_de> Coren: In that case, Tools will not be able to
>> |           replace Toolserver.
>> | <giftpfla1ze> what are federated tables btw?
>> | <Ryan_Lane> AFAIK toolserver will also have this limitation
>> |             at some point
>> | <scfc_de> Ryan_Lane: What do you mean?
>> | [...]
>>
>> There were never answers to this, so I bring it up here
>> again:
>>
>> 1. How were "almost /all/ of the problems the TS have had
>>    with replication" "caused by that redundancy and trying
>>    to keep it synced"?
>>
>> 2. What limitation will the Toolserver have at some point?
>>
>>
> As to #2: From what I've been told this has to do with future sharding
> plans for the databases, and due to a change in how we'll be doing
> replication. Of course, I've heard this in passing. For answers to both of
> these questions you'll need to talk to binasher and/or notpeter on IRC, as
> they are the ones doing the database work.
>
> - Ryan
>
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