Nope. The rule says *all* transmitters, receivers, and antennas must be in the *same* 500m circle. I guess the circle moves around with mobile stations, but I don't think anyone is worried about those guys.
73, Dick WC1M On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:55 PM, "ZR" <[email protected]> wrote: > So does that mean the guy in his Brooklyn hi rise without any gear can > operate X number of stations in the US in say the 160M contest and likely > win? There is no rule I see about not moving the 500m entity X times just as > their is no rule about a cross country trucker operating and submitting a > log.. > > Carl > KM1H > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Green WC1M" <[email protected]> > To: "'Robert McGwier'" <[email protected]>; "Tree" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: Topband: Web SDR's and 'Cheating' > > >> Your SDR was effectively a "remote receiver" used by the DX station. >> Credit >> for contacts made utilizing remote receivers depends on the rules >> governing >> specific awards and contests. Here's the relevant rule governing DXCC >> credit: >> >> 9. All stations must be contacted from the same DXCC entity. The location >> of >> any station shall be defined as the location of the transmitter. For the >> purposes of this award, remote operating points must be located within the >> same DXCC entity as the transmitter and receiver. >> >> As you can see, this isn't completely clear. In the first part of the >> sentence, "remote operating points" is not defined. Does that include only >> the transmitter, as defined in the second sentence, or both the >> transmitter >> and receiver, as suggested by the second part of the third sentence? In >> fact, the second part of the third sentence appears to contradict the >> second >> sentence! My guess is that they want the transmitter and receiver to be >> located in the same DXCC entity, but this is not stated explicitly. >> >> Fortunately, the situation is much clearer for ARRL contests, and for most >> CQ contests: remote receivers are not allowed. Period. (Well, except for >> the >> Extreme category in CQ WW.) For ARRL, the definition of a remote receiver >> rests on General Rule 5.3, which states that all transmitters, receivers >> and >> antennas must be within a 500m circle. Since the 160m contact made by the >> DX >> station utilized a transmitter in his location and a remote receiver (your >> SDR and antenna) located more than 500m from the transmitter, it would not >> be eligible for credit in any ARRL contest and in most CQ contests and >> categories. >> >> However, note that the ARRL rules on remote receivers do not preclude the >> operator from being outside the circle. So, you can remotely operate a >> station that's anywhere else in the world. The location of the transmitter >> and receiver (which must be within the same 500m circle) defines where the >> station is located, not the op's location. So, if you operate a >> transmitter >> and receiver located within the same 500m circle in Ghana, and you are >> sitting comfortably in your easy chair in Brooklyn, NY, running the >> station >> over the Internet, the contact is perfectly legal for ARRL contests and >> counts as having been made from Ghana. >> >> Hope this clarifies the issue, at least a little. >> >> 73, Dick WC1M >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert McGwier [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:27 PM >> To: Tree >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Topband: Web SDR's and 'Cheating' >> >> As a Software Radio Developer and chair of the ARRL Software Defined Radio >> and Digital Communications technical committee, as a DXCC recipient, >> contester, and as a ham radio operator period, I abhor this misuse of the >> technology. Boo Hiss indeed. >> >> Bob >> N4HY >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Tree <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 07:21:26PM -0800, Bob Kupps wrote: >>> >>>> What is the ethical position on this, it sure seems wrong to me >>> >>> What country are the people really "working" with their radio? >>> >>> There is not a two way exchange of information with someone in a >>> single country - therefore - no QSO. The DX station is making >>> these QSOs not count. If caught - they will not be accepted for >>> DXCC. >>> >>> Next step - put the transmitter there too and make it even easier!! >>> >>> Boo hiss!! >>> >>> Tree N6TR >>> _______________________________________________ >>> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > _______________________________________________ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
